Arrests of U.S. citizens with help from a Predator drone

**Marts** · 12-12-11 at 07:17 AM

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As the unmanned aircraft circled 2 miles overhead the next morning, sophisticated sensors under the nose helped pinpoint the three suspects and showed they were unarmed. Police rushed in and made the first known arrests of U.S. citizens with help from a Predator, the spy drone that has helped revolutionize modern warfare.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-drone-arrest-20111211,0,324348.story

**DarnLiina** · 12-12-11 at 07:39 AM

World War III.

**PhoenixBSD** · 12-12-11 at 08:09 AM

From the link:

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But former Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice), who sat on the House homeland security intelligence subcommittee at the time and served as its chairwoman from 2007 until early this year, said no one ever discussed using Predators to help local police serve warrants or do other basic work.

Using Predators for routine law enforcement without public debate or clear legal authority is a mistake, Harman said.

"There is no question that this could become something that people will regret," said Harman...

I personally completely agree with former Rep. Harman. This is an insane policy to use military drones against us. I have no problem with the drones used to track and apprehend illegal aliens along the border, but not US citizens unless there is some extreme situation. Even then the use must be approved by the court beforehand. And I wonder what the actual cost to the taxpayers is for solving this fiendishly clever crime of stealing six cows from the neighbor!

Jedi · 12-12-11 at 08:09 AM

Call of Duty 7 - Police Ops...

**nuwc** · 12-12-11 at 09:51 AM

agreed, phoenix. there are other implications aside from what we appear to see on the surface

for example, having exceptions like these militarized drones for use in civilian life could prop up other mechanical devices or machines to further monitor everyone's actions - sh*t like those "glasses" some latin american country just developed to track 50000 (dont remember the exact number, but it was in the tens of thousands) faces per second to pin point criminals, etc. It's like the big brother concept, and it will happen if this goes on.

**mis4nthropes** · 12-12-11 at 09:58 AM

Agreed, just a terrible decision without any public debate on the matter.

**Method512** · 12-12-11 at 11:20 AM

That's a bit scary tbh. I wouldn't like living in a place where I'm felling I'm being observed 24/7. :\

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the spy drone that has helped revolutionize modern warfare.

So if it's for modern warfares they shouldn't be monitoring everyone.

Quote: Originally Posted by DarnLiina

World War III.

Dont know if you were kidding or not...but how this is going....I cant see another ending than the one you mentioned.

**BlueDragonFire** · 12-12-11 at 11:45 AM

Did it look something like this:

------------

The way things are going a 2nd civil war is clearly possible. Unfortunately the people who are in control also control the "big guns" {for the most part}. How much time before some bigwig decides to clear out an area of "rebels" in one shot, think nukes? Of course other countries aren't going to just sit back and watch, this is the U.S. and they'll be paranoid about one of those nukes coming their way {probably with very good reason}. Voila! Instant WWIII.

Gee, can't wait to see the fireworks start.

Peace to you and yours,
Matthew "Dra'Gon" Stohler

<-- Consider it clicked!

Notorious_dog · 12-12-11 at 12:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DarnLiina

World War III.

There`s only been two world wars.

**Method512** · 12-12-11 at 12:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Notorious_dog

There`s only been two world wars.

lol, that's what she was saying. There's gonna be a third!

**lazzyie** · 12-12-11 at 01:42 PM

Well the patriot act was extended this year giving the government the right to do pretty much anything without approval from anyone if any kind of "terrorist" is involved. This is not really that much of a suprise.
Oh and wouldn't it be COD9?

hvk001 · 12-12-11 at 02:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BlueDragonFire

Did it look something like this:

LOL!!

**Gandolph13** · 12-12-11 at 03:04 PM

And so it begins as US citizens have their rights, freedom and privacy stripped away!

SO what happened to the constitution??

**ItalicPixels** · 12-12-11 at 03:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Gandolph13

And so it begins as US citizens have their rights, freedom and privacy stripped away!

SO what happened to the constitution??

Government slipped it on a sandwich and ate it.

12-12-11 at 07:39 AM	#2
DarnLiina Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 302	World War III.

12-12-11 at 08:09 AM	#3
PhoenixBSD Luminiferous Ether Sailor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Thailand Posts: 1,598	From the link: Quote: But former Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice), who sat on the House homeland security intelligence subcommittee at the time and served as its chairwoman from 2007 until early this year, said no one ever discussed using Predators to help local police serve warrants or do other basic work. Using Predators for routine law enforcement without public debate or clear legal authority is a mistake, Harman said. "There is no question that this could become something that people will regret," said Harman... I personally completely agree with former Rep. Harman. This is an insane policy to use military drones against us. I have no problem with the drones used to track and apprehend illegal aliens along the border, but not US citizens unless there is some extreme situation. Even then the use must be approved by the court beforehand. And I wonder what the actual cost to the taxpayers is for solving this fiendishly clever crime of stealing six cows from the neighbor!

12-12-11 at 08:09 AM	#4
Jedi Master Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dagobah Posts: 1,129	Call of Duty 7 - Police Ops...

12-12-11 at 09:51 AM	#5
nuwc Apprentice Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 490	agreed, phoenix. there are other implications aside from what we appear to see on the surface for example, having exceptions like these militarized drones for use in civilian life could prop up other mechanical devices or machines to further monitor everyone's actions - sh*t like those "glasses" some latin american country just developed to track 50000 (dont remember the exact number, but it was in the tens of thousands) faces per second to pin point criminals, etc. It's like the big brother concept, and it will happen if this goes on.

12-12-11 at 09:58 AM	#6
mis4nthropes Expert Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 556	Agreed, just a terrible decision without any public debate on the matter.

12-12-11 at 11:20 AM	#7
Method512 Is there a character limi Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jersey (GMT) Posts: 3,302	That's a bit scary tbh. I wouldn't like living in a place where I'm felling I'm being observed 24/7. :\ Quote: the spy drone that has helped revolutionize modern warfare. So if it's for modern warfares they shouldn't be monitoring everyone. Quote: Originally Posted by DarnLiina World War III. Dont know if you were kidding or not...but how this is going....I cant see another ending than the one you mentioned.

12-12-11 at 11:45 AM	#8
BlueDragonFire I plead INSANITY! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Eville, Indiana, USA, Psychotic State Posts: 1,744	Did it look something like this: ------------ The way things are going a 2nd civil war is clearly possible. Unfortunately the people who are in control also control the "big guns" {for the most part}. How much time before some bigwig decides to clear out an area of "rebels" in one shot, think nukes? Of course other countries aren't going to just sit back and watch, this is the U.S. and they'll be paranoid about one of those nukes coming their way {probably with very good reason}. Voila! Instant WWIII. Gee, can't wait to see the fireworks start. Peace to you and yours, Matthew "Dra'Gon" Stohler <-- Consider it clicked!

12-12-11 at 12:44 PM	#9
Notorious_dog Elder Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,974	Quote: Originally Posted by DarnLiina World War III. There`s only been two world wars.

12-12-11 at 12:46 PM	#10
Method512 Is there a character limi Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jersey (GMT) Posts: 3,302	Quote: Originally Posted by Notorious_dog There`s only been two world wars. lol, that's what she was saying. There's gonna be a third!

12-12-11 at 01:42 PM	#11
lazzyie Hopelessly Lost Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,210	Well the patriot act was extended this year giving the government the right to do pretty much anything without approval from anyone if any kind of "terrorist" is involved. This is not really that much of a suprise. Oh and wouldn't it be COD9?

12-12-11 at 02:03 PM	#12
hvk001 Expert Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Next door Posts: 865	Quote: Originally Posted by BlueDragonFire Did it look something like this: LOL!!

12-12-11 at 03:04 PM	#13
Gandolph13 Legendary Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia (GMT+10) Posts: 12,292	And so it begins as US citizens have their rights, freedom and privacy stripped away! SO what happened to the constitution??

12-12-11 at 03:07 PM	#14
ItalicPixels Elite Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Italic Ocean Posts: 2,191	Quote: Originally Posted by Gandolph13 And so it begins as US citizens have their rights, freedom and privacy stripped away! SO what happened to the constitution?? Government slipped it on a sandwich and ate it.