Dog Involved In DUI Accident Swims 1/2 Mile To Kayaker

**Method512** · 01-13-12 at 11:41 AM

Brainwashed? Yep, alcohol affects driving. lol That's myth!!! You're so right!

It's not you who's the hopeless case. Are you insinuating the people that dont drink and drive are? omg...L. O. L

It's funny that you're the only one close minded and everytime someone disagrees they're brainwashed. Again, you're totally right! Keep saying yourself that!

You asked for scientific proof and then complain. Go ahead. You're right once again!

Nobody went to specific details? Well, you for one, accuse me of not reading your posts, and again, I read from B to T. Then you say I didnt show you anything. Again, already did, you should do the reading instead of accusing others of not reading.
It's not because "it just is", it's because your reaction time gets bigger, no you're gonna say "Na huh, cause I do totally legit tests, like, I...I can eat an apple and not fall."

Yeah, that totally proves it! Beliving in lies is bad, but people believing in their own lies it's even worst.

**anomander** · 01-13-12 at 11:45 AM

Just give up method it's pointless .... Like the old proverb says

"you can lead a dog to water.... But you can't shoot him in the back of the head"

**Method512** · 01-13-12 at 11:48 AM

Guess you're right..but common sense shouldn't be that hard to learn.

I cant shoot him...but can I........?

About his genetic tree resistence..it's true!

My great great grandfather died, and I'm still alive. That must be proof I grew imune to death!

Notorious_dog · 01-13-12 at 12:19 PM

Moof, those are semantics, its not the case that im being ignorant of the science.
Plain semantics. I know very well that there is a law governing the amount of alcohol a person is allowed to have in the blood when driving.

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If it were the case that there was any refute whatsoever for the fact that even a minor amount of alcohol causes deterioration in judgment, awareness, reaction-times & control the offence simply wouldn't exist.

You're absolutely right when you say I'm not exempt from the data.
But, even a minor amount of alcohol doesn't effect everyone in the same amount.

judgment, awareness, reaction-times

judgment

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Alcohol affects judgement by interfering with neurotransmitters in the synapses of the brain
particularly in the frontal lobe of the brain which controls judgment.
The messages then don't get properly sent and computed in the brain, therefore causing the person to make bad decisions they normally would not make.

This can be trained.
(Ill tell you what, There have been times where iv been kicked out of the drivers seat in my own car for trying to drive it because the car was not exactly going in a straight line)

Awareness (I'm still looking for this one; Filtering out the "alcohol awareness" pages)
But if you remember to remain aware of your own awareness of the world around you, then that will help you in making important decisions. For example, If you are aware of your awareness (this can be trained) then you will quickly notice when parts of your brain turn off, thus, indicating to you when you should revise your activity and make appropriate decisions based on that self awareness. (sorry if its a bit too much info there, or not enough detail)

Reaction times. - Honestly, are overrated. If someone jumps out in front of your car in an attempt to hurt them selves, that is when you're reaction times will need to come in.

But if you're reactions times are becoming so slow that they're slipping into seconds (3 second reaction time) then this is where your self awareness will help you be aware of the fact that you might have to stop your car (for your own safety of course).. just because? a 3 second reaction time isn't good enough. (Id rather walk than drive with such a slow reaction time)

Quote: Originally Posted by Method512

Guess you're right..but common sense shouldn't be that hard to learn.

I cant shoot him...but can I........?

About his genetic tree resistence..it's true!

My great great grandfather died, and I'm still alive. That must be proof I grew imune to death!

How about running me over in a car? Will that suffice?

Notorious_dog · 01-14-12 at 07:33 AM

3 second interval for safety???

Do you mean 3 second interval for lack of safety?

Grobar · 01-14-12 at 07:45 AM

While the same amount of alcohol does not affect everybody the same way, it's ludicrous to state one can drive just as well drunk as they can sober. The devil is in the details. I can probably drive just as well dead sober as I can with 3 beers. Then again, I am 6'4" and 280 lbs so I can absorb a lot more than my girlfriend for example. I've also driven completely drunk (still not sure how nothing happened, it was the worst mistake of my life, and I can only thank the one above or the one below for getting me home) and from the little parts I can remember, I was swerving (not wildly, but damn sure was not driving as well as I could have) and was nowhere near a "good" driver.

Alcohol impairs everything about you - reaction time, reasoning, reflexes, judgment. It's about how much you drink before those start to be affected. Also, please nobody bring up the legality of BAC as the true determining factor. The only reason .08 is the "law" is so the country can make money. Just like speed limits haven't changed in 40 years even though you can now drive a modern car into a ****ing wall at 80mph and live. $$$$$$

Notorious_dog · 01-14-12 at 07:48 AM

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it's ludicrous to state one can drive just as well drunk as they can sober.

When it comes down to detail, you're right. (I'm not saying that the details aren't important, but the details are subject to situation.)
When I get pissed drunk.. So pissed that I can't see anything, I can always remember everything the next day. Anyway, I'm not adding to my previous argument with this, Just saying.

**Method512** · 01-14-12 at 08:02 AM

I'm pretty sure you cant remember if you crash and die.

**lvstealth** · 01-14-12 at 06:30 PM

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Just like speed limits haven't changed in 40 years...

giggle

smiling,
Mandy

Notorious_dog · 01-15-12 at 03:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Method512

I'm pretty sure you cant remember if you crash and die.

Oh true... you're right.
That does remind me of that one time I crashed and died.... I couldn't remember a damn THING the next day.

Quote: Originally Posted by Nofile

No. I meant what I said. As a superb driver, and one capable of driving in an exemplary manner while drunk I should have thought you familiar with the concept. Three second interval between your vehicle and the one ahead; also commonly known as three banana rule.

Yea ok hang on, lets not get our panties in a bunch. So you're talking about the following distance rule.... Where I come from its a 2 second rule for dry weather. Though if you're driving fast, I think from memory I can recall 2 seconds possibly being quite trivial. As in, 2 seconds may nto been enough to match the speed, and if that's the case, then screw the 2 second rule, make it more seconds. (In New Zealand. Not sure About Australia)

Remember this?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAtelRZCFWc

you where saying that I MIstook reaction time with the 3 second rule (banana rule). I don't think I did. I mean't, basically that if you're driving a vehicle and are drunk, and your reaction time is so slow that it takes you 3 seconds to realise something, then?..... I don't know what to say. If it takes you 3 seconds to realise something (as in, 3 second reaction time) then I think we both know that's not very good.

athe_light · 01-15-12 at 03:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Notorious_dog

Oh true... you're right.
That does remind me of that one time I crashed and died.... I couldn't remember a dam THING the next day.

I don't know why, but that literally made me lol'd.

**lvstealth** · 01-15-12 at 04:19 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Notorious_dog

If it takes you 3 seconds to realise something then I think we both know that's not very good.

it has taken days and you still don't realize... realise either...

big fail for you on the three second test. each post just makes you look more the idiot.

smiles,
Mandy

**Method512** · 01-15-12 at 07:01 AM

nofile, using facts? lol He will just ignore them as always.

(I bet that he would reply to this post and not yours if I didnt make this sentece in brackets)

Notorious_dog · 01-15-12 at 11:55 AM

I won't ignore them, wtf? I'm not trolling. You think I would put this effort into annoying you? I ain't from the west, my western friend. (well actually I sort of am, but my roots aren't) Do you know how formal our language is in the country I live in right now? Man its so formal that I was baffled when I first arrived and learnt that I had to be so formal in order to avoid being rude. (Well, actually it's not really so so bad.)

Pshh

Surprise surprise.

Quote: Originally Posted by Method512

nofile, using facts? lol He will just ignore them as always.

(I bet that he would reply to this post and not yours if I didnt make this sentece in brackets)

You're one to talk, you posted statistics, bro.

01-13-12 at 11:41 AM	#71
Method512 Is there a character limi Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jersey (GMT) Posts: 3,303	Brainwashed? Yep, alcohol affects driving. lol That's myth!!! You're so right! It's not you who's the hopeless case. Are you insinuating the people that dont drink and drive are? omg...L. O. L It's funny that you're the only one close minded and everytime someone disagrees they're brainwashed. Again, you're totally right! Keep saying yourself that! You asked for scientific proof and then complain. Go ahead. You're right once again! Nobody went to specific details? Well, you for one, accuse me of not reading your posts, and again, I read from B to T. Then you say I didnt show you anything. Again, already did, you should do the reading instead of accusing others of not reading. It's not because "it just is", it's because your reaction time gets bigger, no you're gonna say "Na huh, cause I do totally legit tests, like, I...I can eat an apple and not fall." Yeah, that totally proves it! Beliving in lies is bad, but people believing in their own lies it's even worst. Last edited by Method512; 01-13-12 at 11:42 AM. Reason: grammar

01-13-12 at 12:19 PM	#74
Notorious_dog Elder Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,974	Moof, those are semantics, its not the case that im being ignorant of the science. Plain semantics. I know very well that there is a law governing the amount of alcohol a person is allowed to have in the blood when driving. Quote: If it were the case that there was any refute whatsoever for the fact that even a minor amount of alcohol causes deterioration in judgment, awareness, reaction-times & control the offence simply wouldn't exist. You're absolutely right when you say I'm not exempt from the data. But, even a minor amount of alcohol doesn't effect everyone in the same amount. judgment, awareness, reaction-times judgment Code: Select All http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_alcohol_affect_judgment Quote: Alcohol affects judgement by interfering with neurotransmitters in the synapses of the brain particularly in the frontal lobe of the brain which controls judgment. The messages then don't get properly sent and computed in the brain, therefore causing the person to make bad decisions they normally would not make. This can be trained. (Ill tell you what, There have been times where iv been kicked out of the drivers seat in my own car for trying to drive it because the car was not exactly going in a straight line) Awareness (I'm still looking for this one; Filtering out the "alcohol awareness" pages) But if you remember to remain aware of your own awareness of the world around you, then that will help you in making important decisions. For example, If you are aware of your awareness (this can be trained) then you will quickly notice when parts of your brain turn off, thus, indicating to you when you should revise your activity and make appropriate decisions based on that self awareness. (sorry if its a bit too much info there, or not enough detail) Reaction times. - Honestly, are overrated. If someone jumps out in front of your car in an attempt to hurt them selves, that is when you're reaction times will need to come in. But if you're reactions times are becoming so slow that they're slipping into seconds (3 second reaction time) then this is where your self awareness will help you be aware of the fact that you might have to stop your car (for your own safety of course).. just because? a 3 second reaction time isn't good enough. (Id rather walk than drive with such a slow reaction time) Quote: Originally Posted by Method512 Guess you're right..but common sense shouldn't be that hard to learn. I cant shoot him...but can I........? About his genetic tree resistence..it's true! My great great grandfather died, and I'm still alive. That must be proof I grew imune to death! How about running me over in a car? Will that suffice? Last edited by Notorious_dog; 01-13-12 at 12:29 PM.

01-14-12 at 07:48 AM	#77
Notorious_dog Elder Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,974	Quote: it's ludicrous to state one can drive just as well drunk as they can sober. When it comes down to detail, you're right. (I'm not saying that the details aren't important, but the details are subject to situation.) When I get pissed drunk.. So pissed that I can't see anything, I can always remember everything the next day. Anyway, I'm not adding to my previous argument with this, Just saying. Last edited by Notorious_dog; 01-14-12 at 07:51 AM.

01-15-12 at 03:44 AM	#80
Notorious_dog Elder Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,974	Quote: Originally Posted by Method512 I'm pretty sure you cant remember if you crash and die. Oh true... you're right. That does remind me of that one time I crashed and died.... I couldn't remember a damn THING the next day. Quote: Originally Posted by Nofile No. I meant what I said. As a superb driver, and one capable of driving in an exemplary manner while drunk I should have thought you familiar with the concept. Three second interval between your vehicle and the one ahead; also commonly known as three banana rule. Yea ok hang on, lets not get our panties in a bunch. So you're talking about the following distance rule.... Where I come from its a 2 second rule for dry weather. Though if you're driving fast, I think from memory I can recall 2 seconds possibly being quite trivial. As in, 2 seconds may nto been enough to match the speed, and if that's the case, then screw the 2 second rule, make it more seconds. (In New Zealand. Not sure About Australia) Remember this? Code: Select All https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAtelRZCFWc you where saying that I MIstook reaction time with the 3 second rule (banana rule). I don't think I did. I mean't, basically that if you're driving a vehicle and are drunk, and your reaction time is so slow that it takes you 3 seconds to realise something, then?..... I don't know what to say. If it takes you 3 seconds to realise something (as in, 3 second reaction time) then I think we both know that's not very good. Last edited by Notorious_dog; 01-15-12 at 03:59 AM.

01-15-12 at 11:55 AM	#84
Notorious_dog Elder Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,974	I won't ignore them, wtf? I'm not trolling. You think I would put this effort into annoying you? I ain't from the west, my western friend. (well actually I sort of am, but my roots aren't) Do you know how formal our language is in the country I live in right now? Man its so formal that I was baffled when I first arrived and learnt that I had to be so formal in order to avoid being rude. (Well, actually it's not really so so bad.) Pshh Surprise surprise. Quote: Originally Posted by Method512 nofile, using facts? lol He will just ignore them as always. (I bet that he would reply to this post and not yours if I didnt make this sentece in brackets) You're one to talk, you posted statistics, bro. Last edited by Notorious_dog; 01-15-12 at 12:00 PM.

01-13-12 at 11:45 AM	#72
anomander Reborn Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,020	Just give up method it's pointless .... Like the old proverb says "you can lead a dog to water.... But you can't shoot him in the back of the head"

01-13-12 at 11:48 AM	#73
Method512 Is there a character limi Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jersey (GMT) Posts: 3,303	Guess you're right..but common sense shouldn't be that hard to learn. I cant shoot him...but can I........? About his genetic tree resistence..it's true! My great great grandfather died, and I'm still alive. That must be proof I grew imune to death!

01-14-12 at 07:33 AM	#75
Notorious_dog Elder Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,974	3 second interval for safety??? Do you mean 3 second interval for lack of safety?

01-14-12 at 07:45 AM	#76
Grobar Newcomer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2	While the same amount of alcohol does not affect everybody the same way, it's ludicrous to state one can drive just as well drunk as they can sober. The devil is in the details. I can probably drive just as well dead sober as I can with 3 beers. Then again, I am 6'4" and 280 lbs so I can absorb a lot more than my girlfriend for example. I've also driven completely drunk (still not sure how nothing happened, it was the worst mistake of my life, and I can only thank the one above or the one below for getting me home) and from the little parts I can remember, I was swerving (not wildly, but damn sure was not driving as well as I could have) and was nowhere near a "good" driver. Alcohol impairs everything about you - reaction time, reasoning, reflexes, judgment. It's about how much you drink before those start to be affected. Also, please nobody bring up the legality of BAC as the true determining factor. The only reason .08 is the "law" is so the country can make money. Just like speed limits haven't changed in 40 years even though you can now drive a modern car into a ****ing wall at 80mph and live. $$$$$$

01-14-12 at 08:02 AM	#78
Method512 Is there a character limi Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jersey (GMT) Posts: 3,303	I'm pretty sure you cant remember if you crash and die.

01-14-12 at 06:30 PM	#79
lvstealth Give me your Glow juice.. Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 5,129	Quote: Just like speed limits haven't changed in 40 years... giggle smiling, Mandy

01-15-12 at 03:51 AM	#81
athe_light Apprentice Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Luna Republic! Down with Trollestia! Posts: 304	Quote: Originally Posted by Notorious_dog Oh true... you're right. That does remind me of that one time I crashed and died.... I couldn't remember a dam THING the next day. I don't know why, but that literally made me lol'd.

01-15-12 at 04:19 AM	#82
lvstealth Give me your Glow juice.. Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 5,129	Quote: Originally Posted by Notorious_dog If it takes you 3 seconds to realise something then I think we both know that's not very good. it has taken days and you still don't realize... realise either... big fail for you on the three second test. each post just makes you look more the idiot. smiles, Mandy

01-15-12 at 07:01 AM	#83
Method512 Is there a character limi Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jersey (GMT) Posts: 3,303	nofile, using facts? lol He will just ignore them as always. (I bet that he would reply to this post and not yours if I didnt make this sentece in brackets)