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Old 06-03-12, 12:42 AM   #1
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Default The FBI's ever expanding 'no-fly' list

WASHINGTON -- The number of U.S. citizens and green card holders on the FBI's terror watch list has more than doubled since Christmas 2009, when the attempted bombing of an airliner over Detroit exposed flaws in the list and gaps in how government agencies used the information to screen potential security threats.

In a report released Friday, the Government Accountability Office said that watch list data collected from January 2009 through May 2011 showed that "more individuals have been denied boarding aircraft or subjected to additional physical screening before boarding" by the Transportation Security Administration. The report did not provide an exact figure for the increase.

A spokesman for the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center said that the total number of people on the no-fly list has doubled since the Christmas Day plot, to 20,000. But, he said, the number of U.S. citizens remains "very small" and relatively stable, at 500.

The FBI spokesman said there are about 550,000 people on the agency's larger terrorism watch list, approximately 98 percent of whom are foreign nationals.

The GAO said "hundreds more" foreign citizens were kept off flights after U.S. Customs and Border Protection "determined they would likely be deemed inadmissible upon arrival at a U.S. airport." In addition, the State Department revoked hundreds of visas shortly after Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab's botched attempt to ignite explosives in his underwear "because it determined that the individuals could present an immediate threat to the United States."

The Nigerian would-be bomber was on a British watch list at the time of the attempted attack. But despite warnings to U.S. officials from his father, Abdulmutallab was only on a general watch list in the U.S. and information about him was not considered specific enough to revoke his visa or place his name on a no-fly list.

The GAO report, a public version of a classified report issued late last year, credited TSA's Secure Flight program with reducing the likelihood of misidentifying passengers who are not on the list for those who are, as the late Sen. Edward Kennedy and other unlikely suspects were.

The report also said the Obama administration's edict that government agencies address weaknesses in the watch list nomination process, which led to changes finalized in July 2010, has "impacted agency resources and the traveling public." GAO said agencies responsible for nominating people to the no-fly lists have "expressed concerns about the increasing volumes of information and related challenges in processing this information. Nevertheless, nominating agencies are sending more information for inclusion in the terrorist watch list after the attempted attack than before the attempted attack."

The TSA does not comment on the no-fly list.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/01/no-fly-list_n_1563261.html
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Old 06-03-12, 01:47 AM   #2
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I was on the bullsh*t No-Fly list for several years because some alleged terrorist and I share the same first and last name. I'm English/Irish descent so go figure. It was a hassle every time I flew but finally a ticket agent advised me to include my middle name when booking a reservation and that would differentiate me from the alleged bada$$. Unfortunately sometimes that wasn't possible. The ironic part is I never had any problem with any airline except for US Airways. Anyway, IMHO the whole No-Fly list is and always has been complete sh*te!!!
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Old 06-03-12, 03:01 AM   #3
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We should all put the FBI on the "We dont take you seriously anymore list" lol.
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Old 06-03-12, 03:53 AM   #4
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I'm on my own No-Fly list. I hate riding a bus and an airplane is just a big bus 30,000 ft up, so it's worse.
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Old 06-03-12, 04:13 AM   #5
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Quote: Originally Posted by PhoenixBSD View Post
I was on the bullsh*t No-Fly list for several years because some alleged terrorist and I share the same first and last name. I'm English/Irish descent so go figure. It was a hassle every time I flew but finally a ticket agent advised me to include my middle name when booking a reservation and that would differentiate me from the alleged bada$$. Unfortunately sometimes that wasn't possible. The ironic part is I never had any problem with any airline except for US Airways. Anyway, IMHO the whole No-Fly list is and always has been complete sh*te!!!
Maybe now you'll agree with Steve, BD and I that your parents naming you Osama bin Laden was a form of child abuse...

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Old 06-03-12, 06:23 AM   #6
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Maybe now you'll agree with Steve, BD and I that your parents naming you Osama bin Laden was a form of child abuse...

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Yeah, that must have been it! Yep, Osama bin Laden is certainly a typical English-Irish name!
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Old 06-03-12, 10:32 AM   #7
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I heard that some people were sending in their enemies to be put on the list. I have a few people I'd like to have listed, where do I go to do this?
www.fbi.gov/watchlist.htm
That will get them on the initial watch list. I think it takes 10 recommendations before they move from the watch list to the no-fly list. So just send us the list of names, and we'll send them in as well, making sure they get on there.

A note though, if they are people on TP, you may have a hard time. The list requires you have to have the full real name, which may be difficult to get. Also, you may want to know that we check the list from time to time, to see if we are there yet. And if we suddenly start showing up after this conversation, we may come looking for you...

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