Megaupload Wins Crucial Evidence Disclosure Battle With US Govt.

Notorious_dog · 06-01-12 at 01:24 PM

That's just ****ed up man... I know that there are a gazillion details I probably don't know about, and that I'm only speculating upon all of this from a far away perspective, but from what it seems like, its really just f***ed up........ How is it that I know about this, and nothing has been done about it? Surely if I know about it, the government also knows about it.

Adanaliyik · 06-01-12 at 01:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Notorious_dog

That's just ****ed up man... I know that there are a gazillion details I probably don't know about, and that I'm only speculating upon all of this from a far away perspective, but from what it seems like, its really just f***ed up........ How is it that I know about this, and nothing has been done about it? Surely if I know about it, the government also knows about it.

As has been pointed out over and over here, the US government is owned and operated by big business... So what do you think the chances are that they don't know, and even more so, what are the chances that they'd do anything to stop the abuses by big business? Who the hell do you think got the law passed that gives them the right to sue?

:(

Notorious_dog · 06-01-12 at 02:53 PM

So Americans are basically slaves? I mean, with that much corruption, it probably makes no difference who gets voted in as president.

Nunki · 06-01-12 at 03:38 PM

if i have to go to war, to free the united states, i kill myself!

Adanaliyik · 06-01-12 at 04:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Notorious_dog

So Americans are basically slaves? I mean, with that much corruption, it probably makes no difference who gets voted in as president.

Not quite slaves... There are some weapons they have, like the ACLU, some watchdog organizations, and the Supreme Court... So, if big businesses get caught, they get slapped... But, some things they do aren't easy to detect or prove, and that's where they get over.

But, they still aren't blind. They have some hacker groups on their side too, although most of them aren't as visible as Anonymous. So, some of the secrets leak out that way too, prompting investigations which often time dig up the proof.

However, while there is a powerful arsenal, most Americans don't even try to use it. Also, most Americans have heard of the corruption so often, that they just shrug instead of trying to do something. So, it's about a 70-30 split of where the power is, although that's shrinking. And if the flow of information can be controlled by things like SIPA and ACTA, the word won't get out when they do bad things, and the people side (the 30%) will nosedive.

As for who is president, it does matter. Republican's do everything they can to benefit big business. Democrats help the little man. Trouble is that more Republicans than Democrats are in places of power, because the fat cats had the money to get them there. The Senate is Republican controlled, the House by Democrats, and the current president is a Democrat. So, things are tilting a little more towards the people. But, if the Republicans with the presidency, the numbers will be in their favor, and the power will shift back towards big business...

So, it could get better, but I wouldn't bet any large amount of money on it....

:(

**lvstealth** · 06-01-12 at 06:22 PM

well alrighty then! that is one way to see things!

chuckling,
Mandy

**rasta_nz** · 06-01-12 at 06:57 PM

Way to go!... pretty fair system here in kiwiland... now, if he can only stop that idiot Prime Minister of ours 'John Key' from selling our country.

**SteveJones7** · 06-02-12 at 01:41 AM

What americans need to focus on now (and some are) is to "defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic" with focus (obviously) on the domestic part.

Its saddens me, that such an inward threat has become a reality.

And jeezus dog, your outta control, your a posting machine right now!
Did you buy a new high end keyboard or something lol?

And ada mirrors much of my own views on the situation, and he wrote it all up quite nicely, thanks friend

06-01-12 at 02:53 PM	#31
Notorious_dog Elder Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,974	So Americans are basically slaves? I mean, with that much corruption, it probably makes no difference who gets voted in as president. Last edited by Notorious_dog; 06-01-12 at 02:55 PM.

06-01-12 at 01:24 PM	#29
Notorious_dog Elder Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,974	That's just **ed up man... I know that there are a gazillion details I probably don't know about, and that I'm only speculating upon all of this from a far away perspective, but from what it seems like, its really just f*ed up........ How is it that I know about this, and nothing has been done about it? Surely if I know about it, the government also knows about it.

06-01-12 at 01:45 PM	#30
Adanaliyik Master Join Date: May 2012 Location: Turkey Posts: 1,162	Quote: Originally Posted by Notorious_dog That's just **ed up man... I know that there are a gazillion details I probably don't know about, and that I'm only speculating upon all of this from a far away perspective, but from what it seems like, its really just f*ed up........ How is it that I know about this, and nothing has been done about it? Surely if I know about it, the government also knows about it. As has been pointed out over and over here, the US government is owned and operated by big business... So what do you think the chances are that they don't know, and even more so, what are the chances that they'd do anything to stop the abuses by big business? Who the hell do you think got the law passed that gives them the right to sue? :(

06-01-12 at 03:38 PM	#32
Nunki Novice Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Terra Posts: 173	if i have to go to war, to free the united states, i kill myself!

06-01-12 at 04:33 PM	#33
Adanaliyik Master Join Date: May 2012 Location: Turkey Posts: 1,162	Quote: Originally Posted by Notorious_dog So Americans are basically slaves? I mean, with that much corruption, it probably makes no difference who gets voted in as president. Not quite slaves... There are some weapons they have, like the ACLU, some watchdog organizations, and the Supreme Court... So, if big businesses get caught, they get slapped... But, some things they do aren't easy to detect or prove, and that's where they get over. But, they still aren't blind. They have some hacker groups on their side too, although most of them aren't as visible as Anonymous. So, some of the secrets leak out that way too, prompting investigations which often time dig up the proof. However, while there is a powerful arsenal, most Americans don't even try to use it. Also, most Americans have heard of the corruption so often, that they just shrug instead of trying to do something. So, it's about a 70-30 split of where the power is, although that's shrinking. And if the flow of information can be controlled by things like SIPA and ACTA, the word won't get out when they do bad things, and the people side (the 30%) will nosedive. As for who is president, it does matter. Republican's do everything they can to benefit big business. Democrats help the little man. Trouble is that more Republicans than Democrats are in places of power, because the fat cats had the money to get them there. The Senate is Republican controlled, the House by Democrats, and the current president is a Democrat. So, things are tilting a little more towards the people. But, if the Republicans with the presidency, the numbers will be in their favor, and the power will shift back towards big business... So, it could get better, but I wouldn't bet any large amount of money on it.... :(

06-01-12 at 06:22 PM	#34
lvstealth Give me your Glow juice.. Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 5,188	well alrighty then! that is one way to see things! chuckling, Mandy

06-01-12 at 06:57 PM	#35
rasta_nz supercalifragilistic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,177	Way to go!... pretty fair system here in kiwiland... now, if he can only stop that idiot Prime Minister of ours 'John Key' from selling our country.

06-02-12 at 01:41 AM	#36
SteveJones7 Too sexy for this board Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: teh earth Posts: 1,544	What americans need to focus on now (and some are) is to "defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic" with focus (obviously) on the domestic part. Its saddens me, that such an inward threat has become a reality. And jeezus dog, your outta control, your a posting machine right now! Did you buy a new high end keyboard or something lol? And ada mirrors much of my own views on the situation, and he wrote it all up quite nicely, thanks friend