Monsanto threatens to sue the entire state of Vermont

dethofseth · 06-25-12 at 04:34 PM

Money is Power and Power is Money

**mirrow** · 06-25-12 at 04:42 PM

Here in Holland we basicly have 2 choices, more power for the corporations or more governmental control. As a socialist I'll pick the last one.

Die Liberals :P

**Gandolph13** · 06-25-12 at 05:13 PM

Monsanto is EVIL!

**wtfjack** · 06-25-12 at 06:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MacFalic

All the while the only information actually amassed says it is safe. No actual or real tests say otherwise. If I am wrong, please correct me. Kindly do not confuse selective breeding, as in cattle, with genetic modification.

You mean all that data from the FDA scientists?
Or the scientists that depend on government money to stay funded?
Big corporations have the government in their back pocket.
What they want, they get.

No one knows what the long term effects of this crap will do to people down the road.
Nor do they know what could happen with cross pollination.
Only time will tell. Just hope it doesn't go the wrong way.

As for the part about selective breeding?
Didn't a certain leader want to do that in the late 30's to mid 40's?
Makes me wonder what's next on their agenda.
He who runs the food supply dictates world policy.

dannie9 · 06-25-12 at 06:37 PM

**SteveJones7** · 06-26-12 at 12:52 AM

wtf jack, proving Godwin right yet again lol.

And so what now, governments are going to all be run by big business.
We are all prols, bowing to our rich and mighty overlords?

Well mankind has certainly progressed, NOT

**Noledox** · 06-26-12 at 12:54 AM

As an actual Vermonter, I'd like to point something out: The bill, and the coverage of the bill bake an absolute mess in conflating GMO's and synthetic compounds. While the headlines are about forcing labeling GMO's as not 'natural', my understanding it that it's actually about a synthetically produced chemical used in many so-called 'natural' foods. The chemical (whose name escapes me) is not a GMO, as it is not an organism.

Adanaliyik · 06-26-12 at 01:23 AM

Actually, my only comment on this is that it's Monsanto that's mostly responsible for the obesity problem in America. Soft drinks are a perfect example. If soft drinks were made with real sugar, even with the same number of calories, the body would readily burn most of that sugar. But, because of pressure from people like Monsanto, all the sugar has been replaced by high fructose corn syrup which your body does not burn as readily. And, with the number of soft drinks the average American drinks, regardless of their other eating habits, they end up being fat pigs...

:)

**Noledox** · 06-26-12 at 01:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Adanaliyik

Actually, my only comment on this is that it's Monsanto that's mostly responsible for the obesity problem in America. Soft drinks are a perfect example. If soft drinks were made with real sugar, even with the same number of calories, the body would readily burn most of that sugar. But, because of pressure from people like Monsanto, all the sugar has been replaced by high fructose corn syrup which your body does not burn as readily. And, with the number of soft drinks the average American drinks, regardless of their other eating habits, they end up being fat pigs...

:)

That reminds me of PepsiCo doing it's "throwback" to cane sugar. The first generation of Mountain Dew Throwback actually had less sugar than (and I think the same sodium as) regular Mountain Dew.

Adanaliyik · 06-26-12 at 02:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Noledox

That reminds me of PepsiCo doing it's "throwback" to cane sugar. The first generation of Mountain Dew Throwback actually had less sugar than (and I think the same sodium as) regular Mountain Dew.

That was my example... I'm a confirmed Mountain Dew addict, which is why I want to see Monsanto burn in hell...

:)

dannie9 · 06-26-12 at 07:29 AM

i wish i could find mtn dew throwback all i can find is pepsi throwbacks around me. even sodas i drink sparingly since one knows what it does to teeth and i can never find the organic kind

**wtfjack** · 06-26-12 at 04:37 PM

Mountain Dew throwback.
Love that stuff!
Reminds me of the time when soda tasted better because it used sugar.
And yes! It does have less calories then the corn sugar crap!

06-25-12 at 04:34 PM	#15
dethofseth Apprentice Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 497	Money is Power and Power is Money

06-25-12 at 04:42 PM	#16
mirrow Master Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Delft, Holland Posts: 1,134	Here in Holland we basicly have 2 choices, more power for the corporations or more governmental control. As a socialist I'll pick the last one. Die Liberals :P

06-25-12 at 05:13 PM	#17
Gandolph13 Legendary Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia (GMT+10) Posts: 12,364	Monsanto is EVIL!

06-25-12 at 06:10 PM	#18
wtfjack Elite Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,606	Quote: Originally Posted by MacFalic All the while the only information actually amassed says it is safe. No actual or real tests say otherwise. If I am wrong, please correct me. Kindly do not confuse selective breeding, as in cattle, with genetic modification. You mean all that data from the FDA scientists? Or the scientists that depend on government money to stay funded? Big corporations have the government in their back pocket. What they want, they get. No one knows what the long term effects of this crap will do to people down the road. Nor do they know what could happen with cross pollination. Only time will tell. Just hope it doesn't go the wrong way. As for the part about selective breeding? Didn't a certain leader want to do that in the late 30's to mid 40's? Makes me wonder what's next on their agenda. He who runs the food supply dictates world policy.

06-25-12 at 06:37 PM	#19
dannie9 Expert Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 645

06-26-12 at 12:52 AM	#20
SteveJones7 Too sexy for this board Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: teh earth Posts: 1,541	wtf jack, proving Godwin right yet again lol. And so what now, governments are going to all be run by big business. We are all prols, bowing to our rich and mighty overlords? Well mankind has certainly progressed, NOT

06-26-12 at 12:54 AM	#21
Noledox Bad command or file name Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Terra Incognita Posts: 2,709	As an actual Vermonter, I'd like to point something out: The bill, and the coverage of the bill bake an absolute mess in conflating GMO's and synthetic compounds. While the headlines are about forcing labeling GMO's as not 'natural', my understanding it that it's actually about a synthetically produced chemical used in many so-called 'natural' foods. The chemical (whose name escapes me) is not a GMO, as it is not an organism.

06-26-12 at 01:23 AM	#22
Adanaliyik Master Join Date: May 2012 Location: Turkey Posts: 1,162	Actually, my only comment on this is that it's Monsanto that's mostly responsible for the obesity problem in America. Soft drinks are a perfect example. If soft drinks were made with real sugar, even with the same number of calories, the body would readily burn most of that sugar. But, because of pressure from people like Monsanto, all the sugar has been replaced by high fructose corn syrup which your body does not burn as readily. And, with the number of soft drinks the average American drinks, regardless of their other eating habits, they end up being fat pigs... :)

06-26-12 at 01:29 AM	#23
Noledox Bad command or file name Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Terra Incognita Posts: 2,709	Quote: Originally Posted by Adanaliyik Actually, my only comment on this is that it's Monsanto that's mostly responsible for the obesity problem in America. Soft drinks are a perfect example. If soft drinks were made with real sugar, even with the same number of calories, the body would readily burn most of that sugar. But, because of pressure from people like Monsanto, all the sugar has been replaced by high fructose corn syrup which your body does not burn as readily. And, with the number of soft drinks the average American drinks, regardless of their other eating habits, they end up being fat pigs... :) That reminds me of PepsiCo doing it's "throwback" to cane sugar. The first generation of Mountain Dew Throwback actually had less sugar than (and I think the same sodium as) regular Mountain Dew.

06-26-12 at 02:00 AM	#24
Adanaliyik Master Join Date: May 2012 Location: Turkey Posts: 1,162	Quote: Originally Posted by Noledox That reminds me of PepsiCo doing it's "throwback" to cane sugar. The first generation of Mountain Dew Throwback actually had less sugar than (and I think the same sodium as) regular Mountain Dew. That was my example... I'm a confirmed Mountain Dew addict, which is why I want to see Monsanto burn in hell... :)

06-26-12 at 07:29 AM	#25
dannie9 Expert Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 645	i wish i could find mtn dew throwback all i can find is pepsi throwbacks around me. even sodas i drink sparingly since one knows what it does to teeth and i can never find the organic kind

06-26-12 at 04:37 PM	#26
wtfjack Elite Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,606	Mountain Dew throwback. Love that stuff! Reminds me of the time when soda tasted better because it used sugar. And yes! It does have less calories then the corn sugar crap!