Police Brutality - Handled the Way It Should Be

**Method512** · 10-28-11 at 07:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by pironami

Wow, I did not expect that half way through. :O Wish I knew what the guy was saying.

So much hard work to translate it....

He only wanted to say that his family supported José Fonseca, the portuguese referee of the game. Then, the security entered the field, out of their natural habitat, the four black dressed in black started beating the man in white. All of a sudden, blues, reds, greens joined the guy in white, and the situation turned out black. For 10 minutes, the securities had the reversal of the coin. Good judgement was made by some fans and the quick response of the players to minimize the problem. This security was unconscient for a few minutes, and then walked out on his own feet with some help. (irrelevant stuff) There were no detentions, but there was a celebration of Benfica fans and a hospital visit by the 4 securities.

@G13: It wasnt only in Australia. It happens all over the world. If you were from another nationality you would probably think the same way.

**shonymat** · 10-28-11 at 08:28 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by nofile404

for the mouth breathers in here.

hee hee.

**Method512** · 10-28-11 at 08:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Gandolph13

What's the old saying, when I do good no one remembers, when I do bad, no one forgets.

1000 good deeds to delete 1 bad. I actually agree with this statement. If someone does good it's not to get recognision (at least it shouldn't be, and being good is the standard for people) but one bad deed is against the normal rules of society so it's normal to remeber when someone is swimming against the stream.

**Gandolph13** · 10-28-11 at 02:35 PM

Quote:

@G13: It wasnt only in Australia. It happens all over the world. If you were from another nationality you would probably think the same way.

I confess, I only experienced it in Australia.

When I was 20 I was arrested at work for warrants relating to driving offences. When I was being forced to sign a statement and refused, I was smacked down off the chair I was sitting on. I didn't make, nor write a statement. It worked in my favour though. When I righted the chair I broke the foot of the arsehole that smacked me down, which resulted in a bigger beating, but it was worth it.
Now, when I was taken across the road to the courthouse the next day to face the charges (spent the night in the lock up), 8 highway patrol men, one after the other, walked into the court room, took one look at me and said "That's not the person I booked". Someone knew my name, my address and my date of birth, got pulled up, rattled off my info without producing a license then rode off on his motorbike. It was the magistrate's son, a scum bag I had known for years but didn't associate with directly, but he knew me, found out my date of birth (I have no idea how), knew my address, and used it to avoid fines.
The detective considered having me charged with assault but considering I had been arrested at work and now had black eyes and so forth I didn't have the previous day, he decided there may be too many questions.

I was innocent, had no idea what the heck was going on, but copped a flogging for refusing to sign a false statement....

Edit: To clarify a point. The scum bag was incorrectly identified as me leaving the scene of an incident by one of the highway patrol men that had previously pulled him over and booked him.

**Method512** · 10-28-11 at 03:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Gandolph13

The detective considered having me charged with assault but considering I had been arrested at work and now had black eyes and so forth I didn't have the previous day, he decided there may be too many questions.

I was innocent, had no idea what the heck was going on, but copped a flogging for refusing to sign a false statement....

And couldn't you charge him with assault???? That sob surely deserved it.
There are cops who are like that and mess with the wrong people, then they see how strong they are when they are about getting killed just for being stupid.

I'm not saying that I would want those cops killed, just that some of them probably are posing as tough guys and then they put their tail between their legs when they see themselves locked up and being beaten by the guy they abused and his "friends".

btw: You have some afortunates with the police. Here they dont really do that (as far as I know, I've never been arrested), but I wouldn't call them good cops either cause they're too lazy...

**cazmajor** · 10-30-11 at 02:20 PM

In response to nofiles post, I never said all police are bad, nor did I say most, but tons are.

I think your 'learning paragraph' comes from you exaggerating half of what was said to fit your clearly non-object appraisal of anyone who had anything more that a gentle remark about the police force, those who thought it in general needs to have a large amount of scum removed from it.

If being pulled out of a tree and slammed into a fence sounds like an exaggeration then you lack imagination.

As for calling people sheltered when they don't agree with the elements that they didn't say (see first paragraph) that is not the case either. If you make statements that imply people vary rarely get treated like excrement by the cops then I will say you are sheltered, because it happens all the time.

Yes those that do good, do not for the most part get recognised but that does not excuse those that are evil scum within their ranks.

As I think others who have been bullied or even assaulted by police would see it as well, if a priest is fiddling with a boy and then beaten we would feel some karma/justice. However if there was a priest walking down the road and got his head kicked in we would not see it as anything but shocking even though we felt that the priest hood was let down by a large number of paedophiles in their ranks.

As for complaining about every time you are belittled by the police, firstly that can be lengthy/expensive process, secondly it's your word against perhaps 4 or 5 people and thirdly requesting a badge number (and a pen and paper) from someone who has just slammed your face into a fence is a bit awkward.

Please don't put words into our mouths, I for one hate it when statements I didn't even make are used to found an argument that insults me.

As hinted at in an earlier post, if anyone thinks that a system where police (UK SO19) shoot a young Brazilian electrician in the head 5 times because they mistakenly thought he was a terrorist doesn't need a great deal of work then that's down to them!

10-28-11 at 07:12 AM	#43
Method512 Is there a character limi Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jersey (GMT) Posts: 3,303	Quote: Originally Posted by pironami Wow, I did not expect that half way through. :O Wish I knew what the guy was saying. So much hard work to translate it.... He only wanted to say that his family supported José Fonseca, the portuguese referee of the game. Then, the security entered the field, out of their natural habitat, the four black dressed in black started beating the man in white. All of a sudden, blues, reds, greens joined the guy in white, and the situation turned out black. For 10 minutes, the securities had the reversal of the coin. Good judgement was made by some fans and the quick response of the players to minimize the problem. This security was unconscient for a few minutes, and then walked out on his own feet with some help. (irrelevant stuff) There were no detentions, but there was a celebration of Benfica fans and a hospital visit by the 4 securities. @G13: It wasnt only in Australia. It happens all over the world. If you were from another nationality you would probably think the same way. Last edited by Method512; 10-28-11 at 07:15 AM.

10-28-11 at 02:35 PM	#46
Gandolph13 Legendary Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia (GMT+10) Posts: 12,611	Quote: @G13: It wasnt only in Australia. It happens all over the world. If you were from another nationality you would probably think the same way. I confess, I only experienced it in Australia. When I was 20 I was arrested at work for warrants relating to driving offences. When I was being forced to sign a statement and refused, I was smacked down off the chair I was sitting on. I didn't make, nor write a statement. It worked in my favour though. When I righted the chair I broke the foot of the arsehole that smacked me down, which resulted in a bigger beating, but it was worth it. Now, when I was taken across the road to the courthouse the next day to face the charges (spent the night in the lock up), 8 highway patrol men, one after the other, walked into the court room, took one look at me and said "That's not the person I booked". Someone knew my name, my address and my date of birth, got pulled up, rattled off my info without producing a license then rode off on his motorbike. It was the magistrate's son, a scum bag I had known for years but didn't associate with directly, but he knew me, found out my date of birth (I have no idea how), knew my address, and used it to avoid fines. The detective considered having me charged with assault but considering I had been arrested at work and now had black eyes and so forth I didn't have the previous day, he decided there may be too many questions. I was innocent, had no idea what the heck was going on, but copped a flogging for refusing to sign a false statement.... Edit: To clarify a point. The scum bag was incorrectly identified as me leaving the scene of an incident by one of the highway patrol men that had previously pulled him over and booked him. Last edited by Gandolph13; 10-28-11 at 03:35 PM.

10-30-11 at 02:20 PM	#48
cazmajor Elite Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,682	In response to nofiles post, I never said all police are bad, nor did I say most, but tons are. I think your 'learning paragraph' comes from you exaggerating half of what was said to fit your clearly non-object appraisal of anyone who had anything more that a gentle remark about the police force, those who thought it in general needs to have a large amount of scum removed from it. If being pulled out of a tree and slammed into a fence sounds like an exaggeration then you lack imagination. As for calling people sheltered when they don't agree with the elements that they didn't say (see first paragraph) that is not the case either. If you make statements that imply people vary rarely get treated like excrement by the cops then I will say you are sheltered, because it happens all the time. Yes those that do good, do not for the most part get recognised but that does not excuse those that are evil scum within their ranks. As I think others who have been bullied or even assaulted by police would see it as well, if a priest is fiddling with a boy and then beaten we would feel some karma/justice. However if there was a priest walking down the road and got his head kicked in we would not see it as anything but shocking even though we felt that the priest hood was let down by a large number of paedophiles in their ranks. As for complaining about every time you are belittled by the police, firstly that can be lengthy/expensive process, secondly it's your word against perhaps 4 or 5 people and thirdly requesting a badge number (and a pen and paper) from someone who has just slammed your face into a fence is a bit awkward. Please don't put words into our mouths, I for one hate it when statements I didn't even make are used to found an argument that insults me. As hinted at in an earlier post, if anyone thinks that a system where police (UK SO19) shoot a young Brazilian electrician in the head 5 times because they mistakenly thought he was a terrorist doesn't need a great deal of work then that's down to them! Last edited by cazmajor; 10-30-11 at 02:26 PM.

10-28-11 at 08:28 AM	#44
shonymat Elder Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,996	Quote: Originally Posted by nofile404 for the mouth breathers in here. hee hee.

10-28-11 at 08:47 AM	#45
Method512 Is there a character limi Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jersey (GMT) Posts: 3,303	Quote: Originally Posted by Gandolph13 What's the old saying, when I do good no one remembers, when I do bad, no one forgets. 1000 good deeds to delete 1 bad. I actually agree with this statement. If someone does good it's not to get recognision (at least it shouldn't be, and being good is the standard for people) but one bad deed is against the normal rules of society so it's normal to remeber when someone is swimming against the stream.

10-28-11 at 03:37 PM	#47
Method512 Is there a character limi Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jersey (GMT) Posts: 3,303	Quote: Originally Posted by Gandolph13 The detective considered having me charged with assault but considering I had been arrested at work and now had black eyes and so forth I didn't have the previous day, he decided there may be too many questions. I was innocent, had no idea what the heck was going on, but copped a flogging for refusing to sign a false statement.... And couldn't you charge him with assault???? That sob surely deserved it. There are cops who are like that and mess with the wrong people, then they see how strong they are when they are about getting killed just for being stupid. I'm not saying that I would want those cops killed, just that some of them probably are posing as tough guys and then they put their tail between their legs when they see themselves locked up and being beaten by the guy they abused and his "friends". btw: You have some afortunates with the police. Here they dont really do that (as far as I know, I've never been arrested), but I wouldn't call them good cops either cause they're too lazy...