Police Kill Homeless Man

**SteveJones7** · 07-04-12 at 09:18 AM

Sounds like something went a bit wrong here, like one cop fired (maybe he got nervous), then the others followed suit and fired as a knee jerk reaction or something?

Im not a cop or young, and I could take down a homeless guy with a knife.

Regardless of what follow up stories say, Im sure the officers involved are far from happy about this incident, and would have been chewed out many times over by now by their superiors.

**anomander** · 07-04-12 at 10:04 AM

Quote:

Im sure the officers involved are far from happy about this incident,

I think the deceased is pretty miffed too
Police training?? A homeless guy with a butter knife .......A cop tooled up like Mad Max with armour on to boot and he darent get close enough to use a Taser ....or I dont know lets try a bizarre tactic actually talk to the guy and try and calm him down? Or overpower him? Have you seen those videos where a guy used to pay bums to fight? Their technique is woeful none of them could jab or even have a decent defence!!

**cazmajor** · 07-04-12 at 11:08 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by anomander

Quote: Originally Posted by SteveJones7

Im sure the officers involved are far from happy about this incident

I think the deceased is pretty miffed too

Hehehehe

**EvilToeKnee** · 07-04-12 at 12:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Valid_Username

That can't be right.
This story would be exploding over the mainstream news if it were.
Sure you haven't got this mixed up with another case?

Well, yes it can. We see this guy everyday around where I work. One of my co-worker's wife works for the hospital and she does all the autopsies for the Tri-City area. She had told him 50 shots. (They used AR-15's, not handguns from what I was told)

And to the other comments, he didn't have a knife. It was a collapsable fork.

**cazmajor** · 07-04-12 at 12:35 PM

"He's got a fork!!!"

:(

Valid_Username · 07-04-12 at 12:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by EvilToeKnee

Well, yes it can. We see this guy everyday around where I work. One of my co-worker's wife works for the hospital and she does all the autopsies for the Tri-City area. She had told him 50 shots. (They used AR-15's, not handguns from what I was told)

And to the other comments, he didn't have a knife. It was a collapsable fork.

She needs to 'tip off' the local press, even if it's semi-anonymously.

Can we assume then that the current media version of events came straight from the police?

**MacFalic** · 07-04-12 at 04:22 PM

We don't even have to assume the massive amount of conjecture and bullsh1t that has been added to the news story, it is obvious. I mean, regular cops using ar-15's, really? I'm sure that some used their service pistols. Its not like all cops are issued an ar-15. And I still question the 'shot 50 times'! To quote from my own previous reply:

Quote:

All the news stories I could find state the man was shot "multiple" times and later died at hospital.

The only mention of 'shot 50 times' is in this post. I could find no news stories that mention it.

They do state erroneously the man was in his fifties. He was 49.

Milton Hall, 49, died at St. Mary's of Michigan hospital after he was shot in the parking lot of the Riverview Plaza shopping center, police say.

Emphasis mine.

**EvilToeKnee** · 07-05-12 at 08:45 AM

All I can say is that is was and is a horrible tragity. The police were confiscating everyones cellphones that were at the shopping center so people wouldn't post videos online. And Saginaw is a VERY dangerous town. All police officers have assault rifles in their vehicles. The amount of shootings in this town is completely ridiculous. So many are unreported simply because the police won't go into those areas of town.

clownpuncher · 07-05-12 at 09:14 AM

Oh no a homeless person died...... <---- sarcasm

**SteveJones7** · 07-05-12 at 09:23 AM

O.k lots of "oh no a homeless person died jokes".

I used to make jokes like that, until one year, I was financially destitue, didnt have to hit the streets, but it was still a humbling experience.

There but for the grace of God and all that.

Seen a few shows/docs where they interviewed some homeless people, and alot of them had the wife, kids, home, job, and a few bad breaks later, there on the skids.

All people are worth something in my book, until they do something horrible, then break out the joke machine lol

07-04-12 at 12:11 PM	#18
EvilToeKnee 3rd Street Saint Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 771	Quote: Originally Posted by Valid_Username That can't be right. This story would be exploding over the mainstream news if it were. Sure you haven't got this mixed up with another case? Well, yes it can. We see this guy everyday around where I work. One of my co-worker's wife works for the hospital and she does all the autopsies for the Tri-City area. She had told him 50 shots. (They used AR-15's, not handguns from what I was told) And to the other comments, he didn't have a knife. It was a collapsable fork. Last edited by EvilToeKnee; 07-04-12 at 12:14 PM. Reason: Added more info

07-04-12 at 09:18 AM	#15
SteveJones7 Too sexy for this board Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: teh earth Posts: 1,541	Sounds like something went a bit wrong here, like one cop fired (maybe he got nervous), then the others followed suit and fired as a knee jerk reaction or something? Im not a cop or young, and I could take down a homeless guy with a knife. Regardless of what follow up stories say, Im sure the officers involved are far from happy about this incident, and would have been chewed out many times over by now by their superiors.

07-04-12 at 10:04 AM	#16
anomander Reborn Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,011	Quote: Im sure the officers involved are far from happy about this incident, I think the deceased is pretty miffed too Police training?? A homeless guy with a butter knife .......A cop tooled up like Mad Max with armour on to boot and he darent get close enough to use a Taser ....or I dont know lets try a bizarre tactic actually talk to the guy and try and calm him down? Or overpower him? Have you seen those videos where a guy used to pay bums to fight? Their technique is woeful none of them could jab or even have a decent defence!!

07-04-12 at 11:08 AM	#17
cazmajor Elite Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,639	Quote: Originally Posted by anomander Quote: Originally Posted by SteveJones7 Im sure the officers involved are far from happy about this incident I think the deceased is pretty miffed too Hehehehe

07-04-12 at 12:35 PM	#19
cazmajor Elite Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,639	"He's got a fork!!!" :(

07-04-12 at 12:56 PM	#20
Valid_Username Expert Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Posts: 720	Quote: Originally Posted by EvilToeKnee Well, yes it can. We see this guy everyday around where I work. One of my co-worker's wife works for the hospital and she does all the autopsies for the Tri-City area. She had told him 50 shots. (They used AR-15's, not handguns from what I was told) And to the other comments, he didn't have a knife. It was a collapsable fork. She needs to 'tip off' the local press, even if it's semi-anonymously. Can we assume then that the current media version of events came straight from the police?

07-04-12 at 04:22 PM	#21
MacFalic Sleeps with Kuune Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Land of Cunning Sheep Posts: 840	We don't even have to assume the massive amount of conjecture and bullsh1t that has been added to the news story, it is obvious. I mean, regular cops using ar-15's, really? I'm sure that some used their service pistols. Its not like all cops are issued an ar-15. And I still question the 'shot 50 times'! To quote from my own previous reply: Quote: All the news stories I could find state the man was shot "multiple" times and later died at hospital. The only mention of 'shot 50 times' is in this post. I could find no news stories that mention it. They do state erroneously the man was in his fifties. He was 49. Milton Hall, 49, died at St. Mary's of Michigan hospital after he was shot in the parking lot of the Riverview Plaza shopping center, police say. Emphasis mine.

07-05-12 at 08:45 AM	#22
EvilToeKnee 3rd Street Saint Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 771	All I can say is that is was and is a horrible tragity. The police were confiscating everyones cellphones that were at the shopping center so people wouldn't post videos online. And Saginaw is a VERY dangerous town. All police officers have assault rifles in their vehicles. The amount of shootings in this town is completely ridiculous. So many are unreported simply because the police won't go into those areas of town.

07-05-12 at 09:14 AM	#23
clownpuncher Novice Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 181	Oh no a homeless person died...... <---- sarcasm

07-05-12 at 09:23 AM	#24
SteveJones7 Too sexy for this board Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: teh earth Posts: 1,541	O.k lots of "oh no a homeless person died jokes". I used to make jokes like that, until one year, I was financially destitue, didnt have to hit the streets, but it was still a humbling experience. There but for the grace of God and all that. Seen a few shows/docs where they interviewed some homeless people, and alot of them had the wife, kids, home, job, and a few bad breaks later, there on the skids. All people are worth something in my book, until they do something horrible, then break out the joke machine lol