Vegan for 26 years started to eat meat again, all health problems gone in 24 hours

**lvstealth** · 03-17-12 at 06:24 PM

giggle! yup... I like meat! nothing like a nice sausage!

smiling,
Mandy

Fuhz · 03-17-12 at 09:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by lvstealth

....what issues? i do not think your morality should have any basis in my "mind". I am quite pleased with my own morality. I am just, and continue to, question your method of discerning which life it is ok to eat and which it is not ok to eat, and i am thankful i do not have this complex of an issue.....

You answered your own question, but I don't expect a thoughtful response anymore so I am pretty much done with this thread.

**lvstealth** · 03-18-12 at 11:05 AM

"thoughtful"????

giggle!

How many times can one "quit" a thread and still be taken seriously?

it is interesting that you think i answered my own question! it appears you do not understand the question.

On a side note, your digs at my motives are no better than your judgement of my morality. again, the ultimate goal here is to try to show that morality is personal and for one to think themselves of a higher moral standard based upon choosing to eat or not eat meat is lacking in basis and extremely judgmental in a sacrosanct type way. while i find your desire to eat no meat of no consequence to me or the world as a whole, i find your judgement of everyone's morality based on their personal food choices to be foul and hyper righteous; a position which is nothing but offensive. judging, finding fault with other people's morality in no way would influence (which seems your goal) anyone with any level of intelligence. my suggestion is to separate your argument from other people's moral aptitude and focus your efforts on reality and facts; or let each to their own preferences (my personal stance).

smiling,
Mandy

Narubxan · 03-18-12 at 05:50 PM

Personally i think he just feels guilty so made up a moral excuse as an ego defense mechanism to justify his behavior, personal morality needs no peer acceptance unless it is bogus morality made to cover something up.
Dont worry, most of that stuff works without you realizing it.

**bookdragon** · 03-18-12 at 07:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Fuhz

Nice thought, but it's a bad argument. Animals also rape and murder indiscriminately, but you can't go around doing those things just because other animals do it, and it's 'natures way'.

That statement is pure BS. Man is one of a handful of species that murders his own. MOST other species act to preserve their own kind. Only dolphins and man rape or even have sex for fun. (all other animals mate only in season for procreation) The 2 other things man shares with dolphins;higher intellect and being the ONLY two species that kill for FUN! Man should act more like an animal not less like one. I can't believe you posted such an idiotic statement!!!!!

I will say that man is a hunter since only hunters have binocular vision, no herbivores have this. I also know we have the dentition of an omnivore, so I cannot think that our physiological make-up would fare well minus the complex proteins found in meat. I know we are beyond "primitive man" and should not be ruled by what nature intended us to be. This argument brings us again to the fact that the only 2 animals with higher intellect are murderers and rapist. (Dolphins and Humans) So the high ground becomes a slippery slope when we use our advanced intellect as the argument.

03-18-12 at 07:29 PM	#103
bookdragon She Dragon Extraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: In the bowels of the Earth Posts: 2,679	Quote: Originally Posted by Fuhz Nice thought, but it's a bad argument. Animals also rape and murder indiscriminately, but you can't go around doing those things just because other animals do it, and it's 'natures way'. That statement is pure BS. Man is one of a handful of species that murders his own. MOST other species act to preserve their own kind. Only dolphins and man rape or even have sex for fun. (all other animals mate only in season for procreation) The 2 other things man shares with dolphins;higher intellect and being the *ONLY* two species that kill for FUN! Man should act more like an animal not less like one. I can't believe you posted such an idiotic statement!!!!! I will say that man is a hunter since only hunters have binocular vision, no herbivores have this. I also know we have the dentition of an omnivore, so I cannot think that our physiological make-up would fare well minus the complex proteins found in meat. I know we are beyond "primitive man" and should not be ruled by what nature intended us to be. This argument brings us again to the fact that the only 2 animals with higher intellect are murderers and rapist. (Dolphins and Humans) So the high ground becomes a slippery slope when we use our advanced intellect as the argument. Last edited by bookdragon; 03-18-12 at 07:38 PM.

03-17-12 at 06:24 PM	#99
lvstealth Give me your Glow juice.. Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 5,129	giggle! yup... I like meat! nothing like a nice sausage! smiling, Mandy

03-17-12 at 09:46 PM	#100
Fuhz Newcomer Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 55	Quote: Originally Posted by lvstealth ....what issues? i do not think your morality should have any basis in my "mind". I am quite pleased with my own morality. I am just, and continue to, question your method of discerning which life it is ok to eat and which it is not ok to eat, and i am thankful i do not have this complex of an issue..... You answered your own question, but I don't expect a thoughtful response anymore so I am pretty much done with this thread.

03-18-12 at 11:05 AM	#101
lvstealth Give me your Glow juice.. Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 5,129	"thoughtful"???? giggle! How many times can one "quit" a thread and still be taken seriously? it is interesting that you think i answered my own question! it appears you do not understand the question. On a side note, your digs at my motives are no better than your judgement of my morality. again, the ultimate goal here is to try to show that morality is personal and for one to think themselves of a higher moral standard based upon choosing to eat or not eat meat is lacking in basis and extremely judgmental in a sacrosanct type way. while i find your desire to eat no meat of no consequence to me or the world as a whole, i find your judgement of everyone's morality based on their personal food choices to be foul and hyper righteous; a position which is nothing but offensive. judging, finding fault with other people's morality in no way would influence (which seems your goal) anyone with any level of intelligence. my suggestion is to separate your argument from other people's moral aptitude and focus your efforts on reality and facts; or let each to their own preferences (my personal stance). smiling, Mandy

03-18-12 at 05:50 PM	#102
Narubxan Master Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: in the Twilight Posts: 1,063	Personally i think he just feels guilty so made up a moral excuse as an ego defense mechanism to justify his behavior, personal morality needs no peer acceptance unless it is bogus morality made to cover something up. Dont worry, most of that stuff works without you realizing it.