Warnings over planned internet trolling laws

**plasty** · 12-13-12 at 07:45 AM

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MPs and peers warn over planned internet trolling laws

Plans to tackle internet trolling could have a "chilling effect" on online freedom of expression, a committee of MPs and peers has said.
The Joint Committee on Human Rights warned that libel law reforms might cause website operators to delete statements that had not broken the law.
"There should be a higher threshold put in place before material has to be removed," chairman Hywel Francis said.
The government has accused the committee of over-complicating matters.
Proposals in the Defamation Bill aim to protect website operators such as Facebook or Twitter from claims against them when defamatory statements are published by their users, while making it easier to identify the people accused of making such statements.....

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Us0r · 12-13-12 at 07:57 AM

What a load of shit, all the scum sucking lawyers will find ways to twist and abuse it and it will just turn into a feeding frenzy. I'm so sick and tired of the assholes in power, it seems like every day we loose another god given right, something needs to be done.

kratm · 12-13-12 at 08:16 AM

The problem is that "Everything" published by the new is "defamatory". (doing something to reduce target fame)

What exactly can you publish if you have to take 7 billion people(world population) into consideration?

I think if we are not careful eventually the whole INTERNET is going to be scraped and started over with governments in control.

I am just hoping they take long so that eventually every one in office from the previous generation will be replace with the current generation.

Current people in office dont really understand what the internet is much less what it is for and they are trying to make rules for it.(IT people have knowledge its just that politicians are trying to impose rules that will eventually bring down that whole internet system.)

Maybe a new internet by peers should be created and then firewall every government.

**rainbowspinner** · 12-13-12 at 08:45 AM

Oh wow.. Is the U.K. truly going to be telling people what they can and can not post on the Internet? Don't the people in the U.K. have freedom of speech? Or is that just something the U.S. has?

These new laws are also going to open up the pathway for all kinds of frivolous lawsuits. Anytime a website takes down someones post because it's 'defamatory" they will be providing ammunition for a defamation lawsuit. Crazy.

**ItalicPixels** · 12-13-12 at 08:48 AM

I'm sick of the US government trying to butt into things they don't understand. You can't simply place laws in a worldwide service, it's impossible.

**Silvergrin** · 12-13-12 at 09:19 AM

Tag line should be Government Trolls Internet

**rainbowspinner** · 12-13-12 at 09:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ItalicPixels

I'm sick of the US government trying to butt into things they don't understand. You can't simply place laws in a worldwide service, it's impossible.

In this case it is NOT the U.S. - It's the United Kingdom. As in the House of Lords not the House of Representatives.

Ghenos · 12-13-12 at 09:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ItalicPixels

I'm sick of the US government trying to butt into things they don't understand. You can't simply place laws in a worldwide service, it's impossible.

You know it's not the US right? You know that US is not the govern body of other countries right? You know other countries also have their share of idiots right?

Quote: Originally Posted by rainbowspinner

In this case it is NOT the U.S. - It's the United Kingdom. As in the House of Lords not the House of Representatives.

Not the House of Commons?

**klown07** · 12-13-12 at 10:39 AM

The U.S. is no better.........any way have you guys read about the ITU and its deep packet inspection of the internet?

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/06/dpi_standard_leaked/

**JiffOrange** · 12-13-12 at 02:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rainbowspinner

Oh wow.. Is the U.K. truly going to be telling people what they can and can not post on the Internet? Don't the people in the U.K. have freedom of speech? Or is that just something the U.S. has?

We have the same freedoms as you guys in the US in the UK, like the US however, our government is always searching for ways it can control anything it thinks could be a potential threat, anything they don't understand (massive target painted on the back of teh internet), vote winner (only matters near elections), vote looser (see 'vote winner') or donation facilitator (very important this one) and turns it into populist scare mongering to control the masses.

It will never happen, very similar to copywrite and that is going sooo well for the governments of the world but doesn't stop them trying.

Cheers,

Jiff

Ghenos · 12-13-12 at 06:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by JiffOrange

We have the same freedoms as you guys in the US in the UK, like the US however, our government is always searching for ways it can control anything it thinks could be a potential threat, anything they don't understand (massive target painted on the back of teh internet), vote winner (only matters near elections), vote looser (see 'vote winner') or donation facilitator (very important this one) and turns it into populist scare mongering to control the masses.

It will never happen, very similar to copywrite and that is going sooo well for the governments of the world but doesn't stop them trying.

Cheers,

Jiff

Same people, same problem, different place and different label.....what else is new?

**lvstealth** · 12-15-12 at 08:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Us0r

... all the scum sucking lawyers ...it seems like every day we loose another god given right...

so..., do you have to prove that they have indeed sucked scum? provide a definition of scum, and dates and places that said "scum" was sucked?

god given right! <----giggle!

it is amazing! at least, i am amazed!

smiles,
Mandy

12-13-12 at 10:39 AM	#9
klown07 ¤ŽØMßî€Š¤ Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: tehINTERNET Posts: 2,561	The U.S. is no better.........any way have you guys read about the ITU and its deep packet inspection of the internet? Code: Select All http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/06/dpi_standard_leaked/

12-13-12 at 07:57 AM	#2
Us0r Expert Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 589	What a load of shit, all the scum sucking lawyers will find ways to twist and abuse it and it will just turn into a feeding frenzy. I'm so sick and tired of the assholes in power, it seems like every day we loose another god given right, something needs to be done.

12-13-12 at 08:16 AM	#3
kratm Newcomer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 13	The problem is that "Everything" published by the new is "defamatory". (doing something to reduce target fame) What exactly can you publish if you have to take 7 billion people(world population) into consideration? I think if we are not careful eventually the whole INTERNET is going to be scraped and started over with governments in control. I am just hoping they take long so that eventually every one in office from the previous generation will be replace with the current generation. Current people in office dont really understand what the internet is much less what it is for and they are trying to make rules for it.(IT people have knowledge its just that politicians are trying to impose rules that will eventually bring down that whole internet system.) Maybe a new internet by peers should be created and then firewall every government.

12-13-12 at 08:45 AM	#4
rainbowspinner Elder Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,690	Oh wow.. Is the U.K. truly going to be telling people what they can and can not post on the Internet? Don't the people in the U.K. have freedom of speech? Or is that just something the U.S. has? These new laws are also going to open up the pathway for all kinds of frivolous lawsuits. Anytime a website takes down someones post because it's 'defamatory" they will be providing ammunition for a defamation lawsuit. Crazy.

12-13-12 at 08:48 AM	#5
ItalicPixels Elite Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Italic Ocean Posts: 2,191	I'm sick of the US government trying to butt into things they don't understand. You can't simply place laws in a worldwide service, it's impossible.

12-13-12 at 09:19 AM	#6
Silvergrin Hunter's Moon Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 924	Tag line should be Government Trolls Internet

12-13-12 at 09:29 AM	#7
rainbowspinner Elder Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,690	Quote: Originally Posted by ItalicPixels I'm sick of the US government trying to butt into things they don't understand. You can't simply place laws in a worldwide service, it's impossible. In this case it is NOT the U.S. - It's the United Kingdom. As in the House of Lords not the House of Representatives.

12-13-12 at 09:38 AM	#8
Ghenos Expert Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 940	Quote: Originally Posted by ItalicPixels I'm sick of the US government trying to butt into things they don't understand. You can't simply place laws in a worldwide service, it's impossible. You know it's not the US right? You know that US is not the govern body of other countries right? You know other countries also have their share of idiots right? Quote: Originally Posted by rainbowspinner In this case it is NOT the U.S. - It's the United Kingdom. As in the House of Lords not the House of Representatives. Not the House of Commons?

12-13-12 at 02:30 PM	#10
JiffOrange Elder Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: $_POST['WIN!']; Posts: 2,717	Quote: Originally Posted by rainbowspinner Oh wow.. Is the U.K. truly going to be telling people what they can and can not post on the Internet? Don't the people in the U.K. have freedom of speech? Or is that just something the U.S. has? We have the same freedoms as you guys in the US in the UK, like the US however, our government is always searching for ways it can control anything it thinks could be a potential threat, anything they don't understand (massive target painted on the back of teh internet), vote winner (only matters near elections), vote looser (see 'vote winner') or donation facilitator (very important this one) and turns it into populist scare mongering to control the masses. It will never happen, very similar to copywrite and that is going sooo well for the governments of the world but doesn't stop them trying. Cheers, Jiff

12-13-12 at 06:09 PM	#11
Ghenos Expert Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 940	Quote: Originally Posted by JiffOrange We have the same freedoms as you guys in the US in the UK, like the US however, our government is always searching for ways it can control anything it thinks could be a potential threat, anything they don't understand (massive target painted on the back of teh internet), vote winner (only matters near elections), vote looser (see 'vote winner') or donation facilitator (very important this one) and turns it into populist scare mongering to control the masses. It will never happen, very similar to copywrite and that is going sooo well for the governments of the world but doesn't stop them trying. Cheers, Jiff Same people, same problem, different place and different label.....what else is new?

12-15-12 at 08:12 AM	#12
lvstealth Give me your Glow juice.. Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 5,190	Quote: Originally Posted by Us0r ... all the scum sucking lawyers ...it seems like every day we loose another god given right... so..., do you have to prove that they have indeed sucked scum? provide a definition of scum, and dates and places that said "scum" was sucked? god given right! <----giggle! it is amazing! at least, i am amazed! smiles, Mandy