Diablo 3

**Nomoon** · 06-09-12 at 02:58 PM

Thanks for the info, PhenomIIX4, I didn't know that

starer2006 · 06-09-12 at 05:04 PM

Thanks a lot guys, especially PhenomIIX4, tried out your nvdia bit, now it feels way better, though updating the nvdia driver was a drag, especially when some laptop can only update their driver from their own computer company.

**Noledox** · 06-09-12 at 11:20 PM

The people offering opinions on WiFi aren't mentioning a very important factor in WiFi performance: interference in the frequency band your wireless is using. The more electronics and other WiFi AP's around, the worse the interference; which means more packet retransmissions and lower overall speeds and unreliable connections.

**Nomoon** · 06-10-12 at 02:45 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Noledox

The people offering opinions on WiFi aren't mentioning a very important factor in WiFi performance: interference in the frequency band your wireless is using. The more electronics and other WiFi AP's around, the worse the interference; which means more packet retransmissions and lower overall speeds and unreliable connections.

Thanks for confirming WiFi can be unreliable in certain conditions.

**PopSmith** · 06-10-12 at 09:16 AM

FWIW, a good friend of mine had a similar issue (#3007 error every ~25 minutes). Despite doing everything Blizzard suggested here:

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http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/error-3007

he still got dropped pretty frequently. Forwarding ports did nothing as well so he tried a direct connection via Ethernet and the problem has yet to resurface.

If you can, I suggest hard-wiring to your modem or router just to see if that eliminates the inconsistent connection issue.

Loora · 06-11-12 at 12:56 AM

In areas with high population density wifi is never a good idea because, even tho networks are seperated on a digital level, on the analog side it's shared bandwidth. At our place, at any given time, there are 10+ wifi networks active which makes using wifi devices pretty much pointless for anything except maybe reading emails.

So one of the first things to check is how many active wifi networks do you see when doing a scan. If there are more than 2-3 just don't bother and go with wired access.

The number of networks is one thing to consider, interference is another which is much harder to detect.

Unfortunately there is almost never a "solution" to wifi problems unless they are caused by bad hardware on your end. In most cases, tho, the source of the problem is someplace other than your own place and therefore pretty much out of your area of influence.

The only good advice is to use cables if you can. If that's a nono then you could try bridging to your powerlines and use those. PowerLine networks used to be pretty bad but in recent times it would seem they improved a lot and offer decent quality and speed.

al1ster · 06-11-12 at 06:00 PM

or you can get a what is it 802.11 n wireless adapter if your router supports it which is can reach speeds of 150mbps where g wifi is 54mbps imagine in games it would be a difference of course most people gonna stick to thos limited laptop wifi antenna instead of looking what chipset of certain wifi adapter is best then as already mentioned of course interferences

of course one idea could be to go into the router and change what channel its using as if everyone in the area is on the same one then i think thats potentially worse then theres the classic case lot of people having there router in a corner of the house low to the floor when it transmits 360 degree radius so they send alot of the signal outside when using crappy wifi cards and the higher the better the router

of course i dont disagree using a cord probably is a better idea but ive seen people just reposition a router solve constant drop outs and connection issues with there own wireless without even getting to channel changing so who noes haha

windheaven · 06-12-12 at 07:59 AM

forget wi fi..........ONE WORD

POWERLINE ADAPTERS

Shuy · 06-13-12 at 05:44 PM

Blizzard has posted about this before. Latency will read higher on D3 because they measure it differently. Posted by Bashy:

"The latency indicator in-game is not a simple ping like most games, and is actually a full process of the game sending an action to the service, the service processing it, and returning it to the client. This means that the latency indicator actually gives a more accurate account of what the experience is for game data, but in comparison to other games will seem high. We’re more interested in issues where there is actual performance degradation, and certainly there may be, but the in-game latency number is not a simple ping and therefore shouldn’t be used literally as a measurement against performance elsewhere."

I know it's complete bullshit, but that's what they said.

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http://blues.incgamers.com/Posts/10/1/40/819/163220/are-pings-supposed-to-be-this-high

Loora · 06-14-12 at 12:31 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Shuy

I know it's complete bullshit, but that's what they said.

No, it isn't. It's a perfectly fine explanation for what's usually called an application ping used to measure application response time in a client/server environment. Makes far more sense than an icmp ping which sends a prioritized icmp packet across the network where the reply packet is generated by the target hosts network interface (driver).

For pure, physical network diagnostic icmp pings are fine. If you want to measure throughput or even application performance you'd run udp pings or application pings (web services do this a lot). The use of the word ping in all those cases might be a bit confusing to those who do not have a somewhat deeper understanding of client/server/networking stuff.

LordBong · 06-15-12 at 10:19 AM

Press ctrl r in game and check your fps.
Next check your latency, if it is green your good, yellow not so good, red bad. Don't even check the ping it does not matter.
Next if it is low fps - Go into my documents diablo 3 open up the d3pref file. Change the hardware line from 4 to 1. Save the file. Start the game and check to see if increase.
If it is a red bar. - This is due to your internet connection, area, or maybe computer infections.

Devspar_Zero · 06-16-12 at 07:35 AM

A Thesis in Diablo 3 VS Rock

06-10-12 at 09:16 AM	#19
PopSmith Elder Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 山で Posts: 2,538	FWIW, a good friend of mine had a similar issue (#3007 error every ~25 minutes). Despite doing everything Blizzard suggested here: Code: Select All http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/error-3007 he still got dropped pretty frequently. Forwarding ports did nothing as well so he tried a direct connection via Ethernet and the problem has yet to resurface. If you can, I suggest hard-wiring to your modem or router just to see if that eliminates the inconsistent connection issue.

06-13-12 at 05:44 PM	#23
Shuy Newcomer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 50	Blizzard has posted about this before. Latency will read higher on D3 because they measure it differently. Posted by Bashy: "The latency indicator in-game is not a simple ping like most games, and is actually a full process of the game sending an action to the service, the service processing it, and returning it to the client. This means that the latency indicator actually gives a more accurate account of what the experience is for game data, but in comparison to other games will seem high. We’re more interested in issues where there is actual performance degradation, and certainly there may be, but the in-game latency number is not a simple ping and therefore shouldn’t be used literally as a measurement against performance elsewhere." I know it's complete bullshit, but that's what they said. Code: Select All http://blues.incgamers.com/Posts/10/1/40/819/163220/are-pings-supposed-to-be-this-high

06-14-12 at 12:31 AM	#24
Loora Apprentice Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 485	Quote: Originally Posted by Shuy I know it's complete bullshit, but that's what they said. No, it isn't. It's a perfectly fine explanation for what's usually called an application ping used to measure application response time in a client/server environment. Makes far more sense than an icmp ping which sends a prioritized icmp packet across the network where the reply packet is generated by the target hosts network interface (driver). For pure, physical network diagnostic icmp pings are fine. If you want to measure throughput or even application performance you'd run udp pings or application pings (web services do this a lot). The use of the word ping in all those cases might be a bit confusing to those who do not have a somewhat deeper understanding of client/server/networking stuff. Last edited by Loora; 06-14-12 at 12:33 AM.

06-09-12 at 02:58 PM	#15
Nomoon Expert Join Date: May 2011 Location: Far from everything Posts: 966	Thanks for the info, PhenomIIX4, I didn't know that

06-09-12 at 05:04 PM	#16
starer2006 Newcomer Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4	Thanks a lot guys, especially PhenomIIX4, tried out your nvdia bit, now it feels way better, though updating the nvdia driver was a drag, especially when some laptop can only update their driver from their own computer company.

06-09-12 at 11:20 PM	#17
Noledox Bad command or file name Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Terra Incognita Posts: 2,709	The people offering opinions on WiFi aren't mentioning a very important factor in WiFi performance: interference in the frequency band your wireless is using. The more electronics and other WiFi AP's around, the worse the interference; which means more packet retransmissions and lower overall speeds and unreliable connections.

06-10-12 at 02:45 AM	#18
Nomoon Expert Join Date: May 2011 Location: Far from everything Posts: 966	Quote: Originally Posted by Noledox The people offering opinions on WiFi aren't mentioning a very important factor in WiFi performance: interference in the frequency band your wireless is using. The more electronics and other WiFi AP's around, the worse the interference; which means more packet retransmissions and lower overall speeds and unreliable connections. Thanks for confirming WiFi can be unreliable in certain conditions.

06-11-12 at 12:56 AM	#20
Loora Apprentice Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 485	In areas with high population density wifi is never a good idea because, even tho networks are seperated on a digital level, on the analog side it's shared bandwidth. At our place, at any given time, there are 10+ wifi networks active which makes using wifi devices pretty much pointless for anything except maybe reading emails. So one of the first things to check is how many active wifi networks do you see when doing a scan. If there are more than 2-3 just don't bother and go with wired access. The number of networks is one thing to consider, interference is another which is much harder to detect. Unfortunately there is almost never a "solution" to wifi problems unless they are caused by bad hardware on your end. In most cases, tho, the source of the problem is someplace other than your own place and therefore pretty much out of your area of influence. The only good advice is to use cables if you can. If that's a nono then you could try bridging to your powerlines and use those. PowerLine networks used to be pretty bad but in recent times it would seem they improved a lot and offer decent quality and speed.

06-11-12 at 06:00 PM	#21
al1ster Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 34	or you can get a what is it 802.11 n wireless adapter if your router supports it which is can reach speeds of 150mbps where g wifi is 54mbps imagine in games it would be a difference of course most people gonna stick to thos limited laptop wifi antenna instead of looking what chipset of certain wifi adapter is best then as already mentioned of course interferences of course one idea could be to go into the router and change what channel its using as if everyone in the area is on the same one then i think thats potentially worse then theres the classic case lot of people having there router in a corner of the house low to the floor when it transmits 360 degree radius so they send alot of the signal outside when using crappy wifi cards and the higher the better the router of course i dont disagree using a cord probably is a better idea but ive seen people just reposition a router solve constant drop outs and connection issues with there own wireless without even getting to channel changing so who noes haha

06-12-12 at 07:59 AM	#22
windheaven Newcomer Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 82	forget wi fi..........ONE WORD POWERLINE ADAPTERS

06-16-12 at 07:35 AM	#26
Devspar_Zero Novice Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 171	A Thesis in Diablo 3 VS Rock