[Hawke99]

Idk if D3 can be played offline in someway but I think that people shouldn't buy diabloIII since Blizzard will price it 70 or more dollars/euros, so much for an half game is quite crazy.

[Deksman2]

I'm not interested in paying for MMORPG's to be honest and playing what should be a single player game online simply because it's a DRM measure is in my opinion idiotic.

I enjoyed the first 2 Diablo games, but I'm not really the type of person who plays games all the time anyway (anymore - at one point up until 10 years ago, I was quite the player), so if D3 requires a constant internet connection in a sense that the game loads everything from the servers, then I won't be playing it either way.

I'm not a big fan MMORPG's either. Too repetitive and boring.
I tried Star Trek: Online, and once you reach a certain level cap, I found it pointless, and the quests became a bit boring before that.
I much prefer Single Player games where you can use your brain somewhat and has an intricate story.
As for Star Wars: The Old Republic - I like the premise and seems to have a lot of story oriented content, but still has that monthly subscription (and so I won't play it, plus I'm not really missing anything anyway).

[BustinNuttman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Loora

There won't be a crack, ever. There MAY be private servers at some point but they will not have any of the content of the original game. Even the "single player" campaign in D3 is completely client/server based and requires you to be online and connected all the time.

D3 is based on an old wow-client, so everything you do requires a server connection.

This is not completely true by any means. Example, if you look at how one of Ubisoft's protection dimilarly worked, you would see that the required download content was aquired and then implemented back into the game as it would have normally. You now didn't have to be connected constantly to the internet so it would download parts of the game while you played. Of course Skidrow ripped this method from another web source (CS.RIN.RU) but it can be done, just takes time, don't expect to see anything on day one if its a similar type of drm. Golden Rule, if it runs, it can be cracked. Nothing is uncrakble, there is always a way, you just have to figure it out, which is the hard part but its not impossible.

I'll buy the game but for people who wait for the crack, the most you will get is a single player campain to play and <b>maybe</b> a server crack/emulator to play with a friend but never through battlenet. You will proubly see the server crack, if it does come out years after if need be, from that website/forum something Gods, I do not remember the name at this time, just has Gods in the title. They do lots of these types of releases.

I don't know why you would think Skidrow is only going to crack this, they are proven thieves time and time again, if its not cracked in the scene and it is sometime on webfirst, expect Skidrow to release "their" crack sameday (also notice how "their" cracks have the same bugs as the webcracks do that they are accused of stealing), you can easly follow the pattern and proof has been posted over and over again of their methods. They do a good job on finding a way to crack games, I give them that, but I don't approve of how they aquire them. The scene has gone down the drain when they ripped the old groups name, lots of shit changed and lots of people left around that time, coincidence or not.

[biodor]

Quote: Originally Posted by Wingcommander4

Its very true what you say about the Call of duty games especially cheating ! However this refers to MP not SP! Already that fact should make their work much easier. Furthermore every group loves to take on a challenge. Remember AC:Brotherhood?

I mean of course it is interesting to see how the scene reacts to this kind of DRM, but what I really want to express is, that this is something wholly new and the emulation is not going to even come close to what the original experience is.

And for the MP/SP thing: in DIII it is basically the same, there is no real border between the singleplayer campaign and the multiplayer one. Besides, and this is not only my opinion, the series WAS fun in SP mode, but the multiplayer experience was way better.

I think I'm going to take the release week off just to see how the people react on tehparadox, when the original ISOs are up and no crack is there.

"what's with the crack?"
"crack included?"

Quote: Originally Posted by BustinNuttman

I'll buy the game but for people who wait for the crack, the most you will get is a single player campain to play and <b>maybe</b> a server crack/emulator to play with a friend but never through battlenet. You will proubly see the server crack, if it does come out years after if need be, from that website/forum something Gods, I do not remember the name at this time, just has Gods in the title. They do lots of these types of releases.

As I have repeatedly said, there is no SP Campaign. The whole game runs via BattleNet.

Quote: Originally Posted by Hawke99

Idk if D3 can be played offline in someway but I think that people shouldn't buy diabloIII since Blizzard will price it 70 or more dollars/euros, so much for an half game is quite crazy.

That is simply...wrong. If you want this game there are ways to get an original copy for below half of its original (ActivisionBlizzard's) price.

I don't want to be a nagger, but from time to time I think the young people on this planet don't learn to compare the prices at different stores/shops any more. I'm only 23 years old and feel like an old man already :/

[Hawke99]

Quote:

That is simply...wrong. If you want this game there are ways to get an original copy for below half of its original (ActivisionBlizzard's) price.
I don't want to be a nagger, but from time to time I think the young people on this planet don't learn to compare the prices at different stores/shops any more. I'm only 23 years old and feel like an old man already :/

This is totally.. wrong. Thanks for your lecture but where on earth did someone ask for that? I honestly don't care if you are an old 23 yo young man teaching people where they'd buy game, It's not event related to the topic.. In any case the point is that you are buying a client in order to play am hybrid single player game using mmorg server/client policy and it's totally a bs!

[Lazieth]

Hey this is my first post here and such, I am Lazieth.

Anyways a proper introduction may be expected in the future but for now - on topic.

I have to say, the whole online-only crap is just ridiculous.
I come from New Zealand, we don't exactly have great internet speeds here, and MMORPGs are usually quite laggy at times (perhaps not in the Capital but I don't live there so not much use to me) so the fact that they want me to pay for a client, and then pay for the internet to play the game, which is laggy and I can't do anything about ( I currently have the fastest Internet plan I can get here ) is freakin bs.

I had high hopes that Diablo III would stick at least a little bit to it's roots and have a marvelous single player campaign to go through, just like the previous games. What a shame. Anything online only is really just an annoyance, especially when it could have been avaliable offline.

My question is why the hell have a single player game online, when you have multiplayer avaliable anyway?
I guess I can understand they want to protect the game from pirates, but is it worth deterring potential customers like myself?

Yeah well thanks to this blatant display of ignorance from the company, I will refrain from buying any of their games in the future.

[Loora]

Quote: Originally Posted by BustinNuttman

This is not completely true by any means. Example, if you look at how one of Ubisoft's protection dimilarly worked, ...................

Do you have ANY, and I really mean it, idea what the hell you are talking about ? Do you even have the slightest idea about the diffrence between a client/server based game and adding online DRM to a programm that is able to be run completely offline ? No ? Then please keep your piehole shut until you do and stop spewing this ignorant nonsense around.

Comparing ubisoft online drm to a mmo style client/server game is like ... uhm ... comparing apples to cars or something equally idiotic and insisting on the car will rott just like the apple because that's what apples do ....... you get the idea, yes ?

For the effin' last time ..... there is no protected single player game with online drm that can be cracked/removed in d3. There is no DRM, understood ?

The game simply requires it's server counterpart to run. The game client only holds all the graphics, models, sounds etc. The server tells it what to display, what animations to play, what sounds to play, what text to display etc. The entire game content is managed and (mostly) delivered by the server. It's simply the way it works. There is nothing to crack, no drm to remove etc.

To pirate d3 in a meaningfull way you'd need to steal the server code AND all of it's associated databases. With that one might be able to setup a decent unofficial server that actually works. Chances of that happening ? You guess ......

[BrokenNoah]

Quote: Originally Posted by BustinNuttman

This is not completely true by any means. Example, if you look at how one of Ubisoft's protection dimilarly worked, you would see that the required download content was aquired and then implemented back into the game as it would have normally. You now didn't have to be connected constantly to the internet so it would download parts of the game while you played. Of course Skidrow ripped this method from another web source (CS.RIN.RU) but it can be done, just takes time, don't expect to see anything on day one if its a similar type of drm. Golden Rule, if it runs, it can be cracked. Nothing is uncrakble, there is always a way, you just have to figure it out, which is the hard part but its not impossible.

I'll buy the game but for people who wait for the crack, the most you will get is a single player campain to play and <b>maybe</b> a server crack/emulator to play with a friend but never through battlenet. You will proubly see the server crack, if it does come out years after if need be, from that website/forum something Gods, I do not remember the name at this time, just has Gods in the title. They do lots of these types of releases.

I don't know why you would think Skidrow is only going to crack this, they are proven thieves time and time again, if its not cracked in the scene and it is sometime on webfirst, expect Skidrow to release "their" crack sameday (also notice how "their" cracks have the same bugs as the webcracks do that they are accused of stealing), you can easly follow the pattern and proof has been posted over and over again of their methods. They do a good job on finding a way to crack games, I give them that, but I don't approve of how they aquire them. The scene has gone down the drain when they ripped the old groups name, lots of shit changed and lots of people left around that time, coincidence or not.

I'm sorry my friend, but your assumption on how DIII is working is incorrect. I read somewhere in this thread that it will not be region-locked, yes? But still my connection is crappy although for some MMOs it's passable. Maybe I'll hold off until the price goes down.

[sebio]

can't wait

[Baiano19]

I am just pissed that my Internet connection is WAY unstable, the beta disconected like 4 times during my gameplay... I guess that means no DIII for me :/

[Loora]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baiano19

I am just pissed that my Internet connection is WAY unstable, the beta disconected like 4 times during my gameplay... I guess that means no DIII for me :/

It did that for pretty much everyone .... and quite a bit more often than 4 times. It was a stresstest, tho. So that was to be expected and it won't be like that in the final game (hence the test) once the release day madness has passed.

[Wingcommander4]

This is to answer the question what the "scene" will do when D3 is finally out. The reply is simple: what groupS ALWAYS do! Attack like a pack of hungry wolves, examine everything, figure it out (Even X-ray it if it made a change!) but no matter what, they will figure it out. They already have a lot of info from the BETA version. So far they have NEVER failed, so the odds are on our side.

[Goose312]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baiano19

I am just pissed that my Internet connection is WAY unstable, the beta disconected like 4 times during my gameplay... I guess that means no DIII for me :/

The beta was a stress test. It disconnected constantly most of the time.

[mac76]

Have you seen the D3 emulated servers for the beta? They are a mess, full of bugs and unplayable. There's no way out: we'll have to buy the game; thanks blizzard.