Building a Computer 1st time, need help

**Grimninja** · 05-24-08 at 09:35 PM

Alienware is owned by Dell now too. But yes i would say dont get one they are overpriced imo and its more for the HIGH-END stuff.
I think you topic has inspired me to create a thread which i will updated quarterly with a value PC built.

houseofusher7 · 05-24-08 at 09:39 PM

that would be awesome, i dont know i have to see what you guys said compared to my stuff, i never did this before and just because i am i dont want to dump all this money into it if i dont need to and such.

**kenrippy** · 05-25-08 at 12:20 AM

have a look at the antec 900. great cooling, and IMO good styling also. cable management could be a little better, but not as important as cooling.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=Antec%2bNine%2bHundred

the case you have picked out looks like it will keep thinks cool too.

i would get the seagate 32mb cache 1tb SATA drive if i were you.

there were some good suggestions on mobo's here. i wouldn't get one that has onboard video since you'll be gaming with it. i tend to recommend the abit IP35 Pro for a good solid mobo. that or a gigabyte - one of these two depending on the options that you need or don't need:

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128064

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128337

stick with a quad core, you'll be glad you did.

**Grimninja** · 05-25-08 at 03:59 AM

Actually if u dont mine it i think getting 2 500gb HDD will be cheaper too and u can separate some of your stuff so u dont lose everything if one drive stuffs up. Or get the new WD 640gb they are extremely good from wat i've heard.

hiVe · 05-25-08 at 05:25 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Grimninja

Cpu
Power Supply on the other hand i would suggest getting th Corsair HX640 great psu and can handle ur system with power to spare if u plan to upgrade.

its called a HX620 brother, not 640 ~
I certainly recommed that unit.

**Grimninja** · 05-25-08 at 06:45 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by hiVe

its called a HX620 brother, not 640 ~
I certainly recommed that unit.

Oh oops i must have press wrong key in the hurry thx for correcting me.

houseofusher7 · 05-25-08 at 09:25 AM

yea i think having 2 tets in my pc is over doing it, i think i may do the duel 500 and then get an external 250 too.

thank you guys for all of your suggestions with this project!

goinginblind · 05-25-08 at 11:05 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Grimninja

Overpriced motherboard imo and does pretty much same things as the ones i recommended and when and if he does plan to upgrade technology would have changed enuff so that board isnt that great.

It may be a little overpriced, but I'm sure you could find it cheaper elsewhere. I just came across it when looking for an alternative to the micro ATX board he had originally selected. I have one of the Ultra Durable motherboards from Gigabyte and it is very nice. In all my years of selling and installing their mainboards, I've only seen a couple die. Overall they make a quality product in my opinion.

**kenrippy** · 05-25-08 at 02:29 PM

i usually hit up sharkyforums.com when i get ready to research a new build. they will help you get on track with what's best for your needs.

**Malevolent** · 05-25-08 at 02:40 PM

Pretty much what everyone said is sound. You don't want a micro ATX mobo, and you definitely wouldn't want to combine it with a full tower case. Get a regular/medium sized case (fulls are huge) and a normal ATX mobo. Other than that, post the best prices you can find for what you decide to get. We'll tell you if you are getting a good deal.

houseofusher7 · 05-25-08 at 04:37 PM

XCLIO A380BK Fully Black High Gloss Finish SECC 1.0mm thickness ATX Full Tower Computer Case

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103010

139.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

194.99

LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106228

22.99

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKB 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136111

94.99

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKB 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136111

94.99

OCZ SLI-Ready Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227269&Tpk=OCZ%2bSLI-Ready%2bEdition%2b4GB%2b(2%2bx%2b2GB)%2b240-Pin%2bDDR2

103.99

GIGABYTE GA-X48-DS4 LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128336

234.99

XFX PVT88GYDD4 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

179.99

Rosewill RP600V2-S-SL 600W SLI Ready-ATX12V V2.01 Power Supply 115/230 V CSA,UL,TUV,FCC - Retail

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182032

79.99

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

36.99

SABRENT CRW-UINB 65-in-1 USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader w/ USB 2.0 Port supports SDHC/VISTA - Retail

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820300608

13.99

BYTECC BT-2000 USB to PS2 Adapter - Retail

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812101117

6.49

Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 B2L-00047 Black 105 Normal Keys 9 Function Keys USB Ergonomics Keyboard Mouse Included - OEM

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109156

21.99

im going with the duel hds 500 gig each and i made some other changes based on what everyone said. thanks anything else let me know

the total is around 1260

**kenrippy** · 05-25-08 at 04:55 PM

wow, that's a lot of money to be spending on a dual core rig.

why the aftermarket cooler, are you going to be overclocking?

the mobo is overpriced, you could definitely save some $$ in that department.

the ram is overpriced also. there's nothing wrong with going with 4x1gb sticks. get one set of 2gb from this deal:

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http://shop4.frys.com/product/5375608

and the other from this deal:

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http://www.buy.com/prod/crucial-ballistix-2gb-2-x-1gb-pc2-6400-800mhz-240-pin-ddr2-memory/q/loc/101/202541818.html

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you can get 4gb from this deal (2 rebates per household) :

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148076

houseofusher7 · 05-25-08 at 05:56 PM

do you know which processor i should get then, the main thing for me is being able to play pc games(dont care too much for the most current games) and my psx emulated and n64

i wont be overclocking but i figure cooling isnt expensive so id rather get the extra cooling just to be on the safe side

since this is my first time i know it may be a dumb question but do i need to buy all the wires inside the pc seperate or do they come with each component?

**kenrippy** · 05-25-08 at 06:06 PM

you shouldn't need any extra cables etc. the mobo will come with SATA cables, if you are buying OEM hard drives they won't come with cables.

i think quad core will be more future-proof as all games will eventually be multi-threaded to take advantage of them.

personally, i like to overclock to get the most out of my money. i have a q6600 2.4ghz running at 3.6ghz. but that's just me, you might want to get the highest stock speed quad that you can afford. or stick with a dual core and see how that works out. you can always upgrade later.

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