How does Real-Debrid or AllDebrid work?

archwizard · 05-26-12 at 09:53 AM

The latest news on Netload service taken fr Real-Debrid's board:
"We are completely unable to offer unlimited traffic on Netload again, it is already a mountain to climb with only two Gigabytes a day per member (the proof is that we don't have enough accounts yet).
PS: Respect our work before being respected. In addition, all persons who want to go elsewhere, then leave! And if you are one of those people who ONLY use this hoster (It's possible!) then you can DIRECTLY buy an account on their service."

Hmmm, seems like NL is tightening its security fences now that it's among the top dogs in the game...

**thunderball** · 05-26-12 at 09:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Noledox

On topic: Netload appears to be working with Real-Debrid, and their compare page says AllDebrid should have Netload working too.

Oops, of course I was talking about AllDebrid.

GlennWoodford · 05-26-12 at 09:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by archwizard

The latest news on Netload service taken fr Real-Debrid's board:
"We are completely unable to offer unlimited traffic on Netload again, it is already a mountain to climb with only two Gigabytes a day per member (the proof is that we don't have enough accounts yet)

I don't know where that came from. It's back.

archwizard · 05-27-12 at 06:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GlennWoodford

I don't know where that came from. It's back.

Apparently they took that down and replaced it with the latest post that the unlimited NL svc is back again. It's from their FB page, under "news"...

In any case, I'm not complaining with things back to the way they were

foobaz · 06-04-12 at 04:07 PM

I just signed up for the free alldebrid account. I set default downloads as SSL. I used the site to generate HTTPS links but when I copy them, JD shows them as unavailable. I followed instructions for JD 2 beta but could find no alldebrid premium account to add. When I tried downloading the links with DownThemAll, they downloaded at max speed but, to my horror, they were not HTTPS but just HTTP as shown by a sniffer. Is this because free accounts are not allowed SSL links? What's up with JD? Is alldebrid no longer supported?

Update:

Half the problem solved. I just tried updating JD 2 beta with the NIGHTLY branch again:

From JDownloader 2 beta directory run from command line:

Code: Select All

java -jar jdupdate.jar -branch NIGHTLY

and this time I did get the plugin for alldebrid. I added it with logon and password and restarted. It works well. I can copy links from the real host and they show up as being from alldebrid. They downlaod at full speed BUT they are still using HTTP protocol and not HTTPS. So that problem still remains.

Update 2:

I found the problem with SSL. At least using DownThemAll. I was accessing the alldebrid link generator in a sandboxed browser and it was opening them in a sandboxed DownThemAll. When I manually pasted the SSL links into an unsandboxed DTA, they were indeed being downloaded using HTTPS protocol. Allbeit at about half max speed. But I still want to fix the problem with JD. I'm hoping it has to do with the free account because I would like to get a paid account now that I see that this is legit. Unfortunately I think it is probably the JD plug-in though. :(

Update 3:

My suspicions have been confirmed. I asked about SSL links on the alldebrid forum and this is the reply:

Quote:

SSL is not supported by Jdownloader with Alldebrid.

Bummer. :(

So what (free) downloaders will resolve original hosted links into alldebrid SSL links?

**kabloona** · 06-04-12 at 05:16 PM

This is a great thread, by the way.

Using real-debrid myself, pretty much the best way to go after MU got taken down. How long it lasts, who knows? So far, I've gotten more than my money's worth....

ukouf · 06-07-12 at 08:23 PM

Is alldebrid down for any of you? It's down for me.

glstat23 · 06-07-12 at 09:01 PM

alldebrid is down for me as well

**thunderball** · 06-08-12 at 10:02 PM

Alldebrid was down concerning JDL but not plug in wise. Meantime both work again.

foobaz · 06-09-12 at 11:51 AM

OK, so I decided to try a paid account on alldebrid (AD from here on). Only $3.99USD for 30 days as opposed to $12.49 for RS alone. I'm getting premium access to over 100 hosting sites for less than 1/3 the cost of just one. I can hardly believe it. How long this can last is another question, but for now, I'll take it.

I am able to get maximum speed downloads from many hosts and that's fantastic, HOWEVER, there are many downsides. First off, I am only interested in SSL downloads for obvious reasons. That's the only reason I put up with RS for so long and why I switched to AD. But getting SSL links that work is a tedious and laborious process with these guys. As I mentioned, the only downloader that works with their SSL is IDM. DTA no longer works at all for me now. Don't know why. JD with the nightly build AD plug-in does work but only with non-SSL links so that's out for me. There seems to be some hostility between the JD developers and AD from what I read on both sites' forums. Neither of them seems to want to support SSL for some reason. I think AD doesn't like the extra overhead and bandwidth requirement of SSL. That's too bad because JD is by far the best downloader out there despite some minor quirks in the GUI. And it is FREE. IDM isn't free, it costs $29.95. What's worse, IDM is the absolute f'in' WORST downloader I have EVER used. Words can't describe just how bad this software is. It has a very awkward, bloated, confusing, completely non-intuitive, inconsistent UI. When you try downloading one link using the browser plug-in, it brings up one dialog with one destination, when you try it with multiple links, it brings up another dialog with a completely different location. So you have to create the destination folder and then copy and paste its location to switch between them. I caught it consuming 33% CPU while idling doing nothing so now I have to limit it with BES. Even at 15% CPU it still downloads at max speed so I don't know why it wants to use more. Another real gem of a 'feature' is that it first downloads PARTS of the file and then 'builds' them after the parts are downloaded. With a large single file this takes 20-30 minutes after the download. WTF!? Any other downloader just builds the file as it downloads it. No waiting. And if you happen to find out how to limit the number of downloads at one time (it's hidden in the 'Scheduler' set-up dialog in one of the tabs)--an AD guy told me to limit it to only 2 at a time for best performance--it insists on building a downloaded file before it starts the next one. There are no host plug-ins in IDM like JD has so you are forced to use AD's "Module of unrestrained links" at their site. OK fine, I concede. But just try and get SSL links. . . Getting HTTP links is no problem, but getting them through JD is much easier than copying and pasting into the unrestrainer window, so there's no point in using it. After verifying the links in JD and pasting them in the form window, I have to press the "Unrestrained my links !" button literally dozens of times, even pasting just 2-3 links at a time, to get SSL links, and then most of the times, I get an ERROR in IDM for the links so I have to go through more cycles. What I have to do is try and open the links in IDM and check off any ones that don't happen to give an error, or that show nothing--if they are valid, they show the size of the file almost immediately--and download that/those links, and then repeat the cycle until I get all valid links. This can take 5 minutes of tedium before I finally get 3 valid links. The standard response on the AD forum to those who complain about the problem they are having with SSL links is, "Disabled SSL options." So though SSL links are available, they are not really willingly supported. Another nice 'feature' of IDM is if you try and download one of the links that neither shows an error or the file size, and then start the download, it locks that link and then you can't stop it from attempting to download the link or delete it from the queue without first quitting the program, then killing the still running program with taskmanager, then restarting and deleting the rogue link. So now I only check off links that show the files size immediately. And, no I'm not a developer of a competing software, I'm just a victim, er, uhh, dissatisfied user of it, who has not yet found any alternative. Any suggestions would be valuable. I am even thinking now of writing a perl script that will keep trying to get valid SSL links automatically. But so far IDM is it. They even have an ad for it at the AD site so they sanction its use. The only thing that is good about it is that it does download at max speed and it does handle AD SSL links WHEN they are valid. I'd like to hear about other people's experiences with other downloaders and SSL links.

In spite of all the downsides of this scenario, the low price of AD can't be beat, and the freedom from the tyranny of having to pay 3 times more for service that limits you to one single host, that has limited content that is constantly being removed, is fantastic. Sometimes certain hosts are unavailable but that just goes with the territory. I understand that they have to do a juggling act to balance the load and not seem to be abusing hosters' servers and I don't envy that. "Try again later." as the admins will tell you.

So I am hoping others will chime in with their experiences with this and other multi-hosters, such as Real-debrid. Is RD more SSL friendly? I hate their site because there is zero information except for the FAQ. No support forum so you can see problems users are having, or report problems and ask advice. Not very encouraging. But this seems to be the only other major contender to AD so there must be a reason.

Sorry for the long post but I hope this will be of use to others and will spark further discussion.

pmaiden5 · 06-09-12 at 12:17 PM

I have an acount on Real-debrid and i am more than satisfied with the service,more than 100 host and i pay by sms text.And all hosts work with Internet Download Manager

**thunderball** · 06-09-12 at 09:33 PM

Real-debrid does not tell you how much they charge until you get yourself registered. Is that someone you would chose to do business with? Or did I miss an important site on this subject?

**Noledox** · 06-09-12 at 11:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by thunderball

Real-debrid does not tell you how much they charge until you get yourself registered. Is that someone you would chose to do business with? Or did I miss an important site on this subject?

Looks like they actually don't let you view the prices unless you are registered. They also default to 90 days of service whenever you change other settings on the payment page (e.g. switch payment methods). On the other hand, unlike a lot of the hosters they leech, they do not auto-charge you for more service when your premium period expires.

**thunderball** · 06-09-12 at 11:42 PM

None of my past hosts did any auto charge. I want to be able to inform myself about price and service prior to any registration. No info, do deal.

06-04-12 at 04:07 PM	#103
foobaz Novice Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 163	I just signed up for the free alldebrid account. I set default downloads as SSL. I used the site to generate HTTPS links but when I copy them, JD shows them as unavailable. I followed instructions for JD 2 beta but could find no alldebrid premium account to add. When I tried downloading the links with DownThemAll, they downloaded at max speed but, to my horror, they were not HTTPS but just HTTP as shown by a sniffer. Is this because free accounts are not allowed SSL links? What's up with JD? Is alldebrid no longer supported? Update: Half the problem solved. I just tried updating JD 2 beta with the NIGHTLY branch again: From JDownloader 2 beta directory run from command line: Code: Select All java -jar jdupdate.jar -branch NIGHTLY and this time I did get the plugin for alldebrid. I added it with logon and password and restarted. It works well. I can copy links from the real host and they show up as being from alldebrid. They downlaod at full speed BUT they are still using HTTP protocol and not HTTPS. So that problem still remains. Update 2: I found the problem with SSL. At least using DownThemAll. I was accessing the alldebrid link generator in a sandboxed browser and it was opening them in a sandboxed DownThemAll. When I manually pasted the SSL links into an unsandboxed DTA, they were indeed being downloaded using HTTPS protocol. Allbeit at about half max speed. But I still want to fix the problem with JD. I'm hoping it has to do with the free account because I would like to get a paid account now that I see that this is legit. Unfortunately I think it is probably the JD plug-in though. :( Update 3: My suspicions have been confirmed. I asked about SSL links on the alldebrid forum and this is the reply: Quote: SSL is not supported by Jdownloader with Alldebrid. Bummer. :( So what (free) downloaders will resolve original hosted links into alldebrid SSL links? Last edited by foobaz; 06-05-12 at 10:55 AM.

05-26-12 at 09:53 AM	#99
archwizard Expert Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 964	The latest news on Netload service taken fr Real-Debrid's board: "We are completely unable to offer unlimited traffic on Netload again, it is already a mountain to climb with only two Gigabytes a day per member (the proof is that we don't have enough accounts yet). PS: Respect our work before being respected. In addition, all persons who want to go elsewhere, then leave! And if you are one of those people who ONLY use this hoster (It's possible!) then you can DIRECTLY buy an account on their service." Hmmm, seems like NL is tightening its security fences now that it's among the top dogs in the game...

05-26-12 at 09:16 PM	#100
thunderball The Brat Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lummerland Posts: 2,771	Quote: Originally Posted by Noledox On topic: Netload appears to be working with Real-Debrid, and their compare page says AllDebrid should have Netload working too. Oops, of course I was talking about AllDebrid.

05-26-12 at 09:29 PM	#101
GlennWoodford Apprentice Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 470	Quote: Originally Posted by archwizard The latest news on Netload service taken fr Real-Debrid's board: "We are completely unable to offer unlimited traffic on Netload again, it is already a mountain to climb with only two Gigabytes a day per member (the proof is that we don't have enough accounts yet) I don't know where that came from. It's back.

05-27-12 at 06:43 AM	#102
archwizard Expert Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 964	Quote: Originally Posted by GlennWoodford I don't know where that came from. It's back. Apparently they took that down and replaced it with the latest post that the unlimited NL svc is back again. It's from their FB page, under "news"... In any case, I'm not complaining with things back to the way they were

06-04-12 at 05:16 PM	#104
kabloona Apprentice Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 452	This is a great thread, by the way. Using real-debrid myself, pretty much the best way to go after MU got taken down. How long it lasts, who knows? So far, I've gotten more than my money's worth....

06-07-12 at 08:23 PM	#105
ukouf Newcomer Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 14	Is alldebrid down for any of you? It's down for me.

06-07-12 at 09:01 PM	#106
glstat23 Newcomer Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 95	alldebrid is down for me as well

06-08-12 at 10:02 PM	#107
thunderball The Brat Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lummerland Posts: 2,771	Alldebrid was down concerning JDL but not plug in wise. Meantime both work again.

06-09-12 at 12:17 PM	#109
pmaiden5 Expert Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portugal-Lisbon Posts: 826	I have an acount on Real-debrid and i am more than satisfied with the service,more than 100 host and i pay by sms text.And all hosts work with Internet Download Manager

06-09-12 at 09:33 PM	#110
thunderball The Brat Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lummerland Posts: 2,771	Real-debrid does not tell you how much they charge until you get yourself registered. Is that someone you would chose to do business with? Or did I miss an important site on this subject?

06-09-12 at 11:34 PM	#111
Noledox Bad command or file name Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Terra Incognita Posts: 2,709	Quote: Originally Posted by thunderball Real-debrid does not tell you how much they charge until you get yourself registered. Is that someone you would chose to do business with? Or did I miss an important site on this subject? Looks like they actually don't let you view the prices unless you are registered. They also default to 90 days of service whenever you change other settings on the payment page (e.g. switch payment methods). On the other hand, unlike a lot of the hosters they leech, they do not auto-charge you for more service when your premium period expires.

06-09-12 at 11:42 PM	#112
thunderball The Brat Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lummerland Posts: 2,771	None of my past hosts did any auto charge. I want to be able to inform myself about price and service prior to any registration. No info, do deal.