[procom32]

Hey everybody, I was just wondering if anyone here is vegan and if so we should start swap delicious recipes!

[mrflawless]

meatatarian here

[biafurr]

hard enough being vegetarian as it is ;]

hmm.. yahoo has vegan food recipes under healthy food recipes

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maybe you can tell us which recipe is good ;]

[c5cha7]

I'm a vegetarian, my girlfriend however is going full on vegan soon =p.
I think she'll struggle because she can't have chocolate, milk, ice-cream etc.

However, if i was to turn Vegan i think i'd try Vegetable Miso Soup with ramen noodles (i thinks its miso or mizu, i only know miso meanswater =p).

I'd share the recipe but i'm not fully aware if "all" or "most" ramen noodles are vegan. (i know there are vegan ramen noodles out there though)

[biafurr]

my friend's vegan and she definitely struggles when she eats out.

your gf is hardcore ;]

miso and ramen sounds good

[slingblade1170]

nope i'm complete opposite

[Silk40dd]

Even though I eat meat, I've considered going without completely. I don't eat lots compared to many meat eaters. One problem here is getting fresh vegetables in the winter months. Or fruit.
Sometimes, I wish I lived where I could grow vegetables all year round.
Maybe I will try as I love animals and hate seeing them shipped along the highways in trucks. However, to give up cream etc seems a bit harsh as its a bi product they produce so why would it be considered animal? After all milk is fed to their own babies so seems to me what is good for nature should be good for us. Just curious. Hugs Silk40dd

[themagician]

'...I've done the lot!

Vegan - Vegetarian - Fruitarian and Macrobiotic.

I found what suits me is Vegetarian and I have been since I was 19-years-old and I am now considerably older.

I am told I look 15-20 years younger than my real age, I'm never ill, have tons of energy and weigh the same as I did when I was 19 without having to diet.

I also have never taken drugs and will not take any medication unless prescribed by a doctor, who I haven't seen for years...And most importantly, I don't now and have never smoked.

We take better care of our cars than our bodies and it's stupid as you WILL suffer later.

Vegan can be tough but I have much admiration for anyone who is.

Quite simply, not only is meat bad for you and has been proven to be, but it is both cruel and unnecessary to kill animals for food.

Please don't get into a debate with me about this. I am a qualified nutritionist and have taught nutrition in U.K. Colleges. I have heard every argument to the contrary and can assure you and PROVE that on all levels, religious, anthropological, health, animal welfare...blah-blah, you should NOT be eating meat.

themagician

[lost411]

Ewwww take that black magic away! :p how could you not eat meat!!!! omg steak! and venison! and and ommmg LAMB with mint sauce! omg and Christmas ham! My sister has been a vegetarian for like... *counts* 13 years or sumn but shes not healthier cuz she just eats processed foods that are vegetarian. BUT WHAT DO YOU DO AT CHRISTMAS TIME??? omg what can you eat??? my sister has all these horrible vegetarian sausages and vegetarian bacon and vegetarian etc but they all taste the SAME and have the borring SAME texture!


"We take better care of our cars than our bodies and it's stupid as you WILL suffer later" pleeeease thats pathetic. Eating meat doesnt make you unhealthy its HOW you eat. people have eatn meat forever and look how many old people there are. sure having McDs or BK is unhealthy if u always eat it but having normal amounts is fine. Plus being vegetarian is expensive. Buy a meal of fish'n'chips for about NZ$3.00 for the whole family, that TASTES good.

Im not bashing vegetarians but ones that say IM so much better than you meat eaters piss me off. A)eating meat doesnt make you unhealthy B)people LIKE meat C)expencive

[themagician]

..."BUT WHAT DO YOU DO AT CHRISTMAS TIME???"

It will be a sad day when my life has nothing in it and no purpose other than to worry about what I will be eating at Christmas...lol. As it happens, for Christmas, I have exactly the same as everyone else - minus the meat...And unlike everyone else, I can jump up from the table and not have to reach for the Rennies or sleep off a meat meal our bodies struggle to digest.

A vegetarian diet is much cheaper than a carnivore diet. I don't have expensive meat cuts to buy. I only eat fresh vegetables and they are extrememly cheap in the market or you can grow your own, or pasta and rice. Vegetarians that substitute sausages and burgers for fake veggie one's haven't let go of the carnivore diet yet and are still clinging to the awful dead burnt meat taste. I don't eat anything like that.

I fail to see the pleasure in eating a burnt, decaying and putrifying animal carcass for dinner, which is what you are geting served up when you eat meat. The steak you love is just an animal's muscle. Wonder why they don't write that on the menu? Or how about: The organ that removes toxins from the blood and produces bile? No doubt you'll eat it because it will just say Liver and Onions.

And then there's all the blood, faeces, urine, hormones, & mucous/pus that comes with it from the animal which is never cleaned up either before or after slaughter. You think that's good for you?

Have you ever visited a slaughterhouse? Apart from the desperate cries of the animals it is unbelievably shocking, smelly and filthy. You need to watch an animal being slaughtered and then eat a piece off the animal you just saw killed in agony.

You are eating part of the dead body of an animal. There are diseases that could arise from the animal and their dead flesh. Problems from eating meat, such as cancers (meat is carcinogenic), obesity, Alzheimer's, high cholesterol, heart diseases, impotence (for men), hypertension, anemia, arthritis, etc. Of course you can get these diseases without eating meat, but the chances are 0.72 compared to meat eaters.

Non-Vegetarian Diseases
Some Real Good Reasons to Give Up Meat



Here is a list of diseases/ailments that have been directly related to eating meat:


Ovarian Cancer
Circulatory Disease
Cervcal Cancer
Prostate Cancer
Multiple Sclerosis
Hypertension
Gall Stones
Anemia Osteoporosis
Heart Disease
Hypoglycemia
Kidney Stones
Ulcers
Asthma
Immune Deficiency
Arthritis Lower Life Expectancy
Colon Cancer
Lower Stamina
Breast Cancer
Constipation
Obesity
Cancer of the Uterus

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Meat isn’t bad, but CRAZY bad for you and DAMN bad to the world. If you took all the food farmers use to feed their cows, it would feed over 10 million starving people, over 7 million people died through hunger & starvation in 2007.

There is no longer any doubt about the fact that eating meat is bad for your health. The list of diseases known to be associated with meat, which are commoner among meat eaters, looks like the index of a medical textbook. Anaemia, appendicitis, arthritis, breast cancer, cancer of the colon, cancer of the prostate, constipation, diabetes, gall stones, gout, high blood pressure, indigestion, obesity, piles, strokes and varicose veins are just some of the well known disorders which are more likely to affect meat eaters than vegetarians. Avoiding meat is one of the best and simplest ways to cut down your fat consumption.

On June 6, 2007 World Bank workshop on livestock's "long shadow" brought together a diverse crowd. In addition to Bank staff, U.N. representatives, animal welfare activists, and environmental NGOs, Dr. Steve Osofsky from the Wildlife Conservation Society spoke to the group. But why would a conservation organization be interested in livestock? There's probably no place on Earth where livestock are more important to human health, the environment, and people's livelihoods than Africa. And there’s no other continent that has the same level of poverty and public health problems.

Those who still eat meat are, in my view, foolishly exposing themselves to the risk of contracting the horrifying human version of ....

**ANIMAL DISEASES**
Rabies
Anthrax
Bluetongue
Bovine Spongiform Encepalopathy (Mad Cow)
Brucellosis
Contagious Bovine Pleuropneumonia
Echinococcosis / Hydatidosis
Exotic Myiasis
Foot and Mouth Disease
Heartwater
Leptospirosis
Lumpy Skin Disease
Malignant Catarrhal Fever
Paratuberculosis
Peste des Petits Ruminants
Pseudorabies
Rabies
Rift Valley Fever
Rinderpest
Screwworm
Toxic Substance Contamination
Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy ( Examples include, but are not limited to, the following diseases: Feline Spongiform Encephalopathy, Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, Chronic Wasting Disease, Scrapie)
Tuberculosis
Vesicular Stomatitis
West Nile Virus Encephalitis

**AVIAN DISEASES**
Avian Infectious Bronchitis
Avian Infectious Laryngotracheitis
Avian Influenza (Avian/ Bird Flu)
Avian Tuberculosis
Chlamydiosis (pet birds)
Chlamydiosis (poultry)
Duck Virus Enteritis
Duck Virus Hepatitis
Equine Encephalomyelitis
Exotic Newcastle Disease
Fowl Cholera
Fowl Pox
Fowl Typhoid
Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza
Infectious Avian Encephalomyelitis
Infectious Bursal Disease
Marek's Disease
Mycoplasma gallisepticum
Newcastle Disease
Paramyxovirus
Pullorum Disease
Salmonella enteritidis enteritidis
Vulvovaginitis
Listeriosis

**DOMESTIC ANIMAL-ONLY DISEASES**
ringworm
vitamin deficiences
kidney disease
dental problems and overgrown teeth
fractured bones
hairballs
genital infections
hairballs
eye problems
septicemia(blood poisoning)
ear infections and mites
pneumonia
heart problems
abscesses
bladder stones
cystic ovaries
kidney stones
diabetes
cancer
leptosperosis

Add to those hazards the fact that if you eat meat you may be consuming hormones, drugs and other chemicals that have been fed to the animals before they were killed and you can see the extent of the danger. No one knows precisely what effect eating the hormones in meat is likely to have on your health. But the risk is there and I think it's a big one. Some farmers use tranquilisers to keep animals calm. Others routinely use antibiotics so that their animals do not develop infections. When you eat meat you are, inevitably, eating those drugs. In America, over half of all antibiotics are fed to animals and I don't think it is any coincidence that the percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin went up from 13% in 1960 to 91% in 1988.

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...And I haven't even started on why our bodies are not designed to eat meat -Wrong teeth, wrong digestive tract etc.

Continue eating meat if you must but you're condemning millions of starving people to death, millions of animals to an agonising and cruel death and killing yourself in the bargain.

themagician

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[jozefk]

i'm vegetarian since March 1998. and I feel great :)

[iskall]

Vegan for just over a year now. As for recipes I buy a lot of stuff from The cruelty free shop online + whatever I can make from my vegan cookbook. Honestly I don't know how people claim to care about animal welfare but say they are vegetarian. Really it should be seen as a step in the right direction, but not the final destination.