Creating an Animation on Mac, plus Sound, plus Subs?

**thunderball** · 06-12-12 at 12:27 AM

What would be the best software or software combination for Mac OS X (not the fastest graphic card & processor - yet

if I wanted to create:

An Animation with a soundtrack and 3 exchangeable subtitles?

Is anyone among you well skilled for such a task? I probably will need some support.

I also made a post concerning this matter: http://tehparadox.com/forum/f85/my-g...93/index4.html

If you are only operating a PC, please share your knowledge with me anyway!!

Thx in advance!

**thunderball** · 06-13-12 at 10:42 PM

Are you kidding me? This is the Graphics and Web Design section, isn´t it?

Someone?!? Please!

zac_1 · 06-19-12 at 02:04 PM

Hey dude,

I would definitely reccommend Cinema4D and Adobe After Effects, they inter-link well in terms of workflow, and you can get some INCREDIBLE animation with that! Maybe its a little advanced for what your doing (i have no idea what level of 3D modelling you are at etc.)

Not so sure about the 3 exchangeable subtitles thing, never had to do that, have a look at 'dvd studio pro.' I think that comes with the FCP studio package (another brilliant video editing tool)

I hope that helped? PM if you want more info or help etc!

**thunderball** · 06-19-12 at 10:34 PM

Thank you! I sent you PM

deepsepia · 07-03-12 at 05:35 PM

For subtitles, I strongly prefer iSubTitle by Bitfield (for soft codeds subtitles -- for hard coded, use their "submerge" product)

Code: Select All

http://www.bitfield.se/isubtitle/index.html

isubtitle is really the way to go for interchangable titles (though there are lots of ways you can do it, this one is very elegant)

**thunderball** · 07-04-12 at 10:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by deepsepia

For subtitles, I strongly prefer iSubTitle by Bitfield (for soft codeds subtitles -- for hard coded, use their "submerge" product)

Thank you!!! What is the difference between a soft codeds subtitle an a hard?

**Noledox** · 07-04-12 at 10:53 PM

In general, soft subs are stored in a separate file from the video, allowing you to display no subs or different subs without re-encoding, while hard subs are permanently affixed to the video frames. For MKV containers though, you can include multiple subtitle streams, (much like the fact that you can include multiple audio streams) which blurs the lines of soft and hard subs.

**thunderball** · 07-04-12 at 10:59 PM

Which method do I have to choose if I want to offer a couple of subs that can be swiiched or turned on and off whenever the user wants to?

Looool, now I know the nature of those darn separate sub files. How do I re-encode?

**Noledox** · 07-05-12 at 12:16 AM

That gets complicated, depending on what container format you're using. For old-fashioned AVI, you'd need to create individual subtitle files for each language, but the quickly switching languages would require the use of specific (feature-rich) media players, I think. For MKV, there are programs that add the subtitles to the MKV container, and as long as the media player supports DVD-style subtitle selection, changing languages on the fly would be easily achieved by the users. This is on the periphery of my knowledge though, so I'm not versed on which programs to use.

**thunderball** · 07-05-12 at 12:19 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Noledox

That gets complicated, depending on what container format you're using. For old-fashioned AVI, you'd need to create individual subtitle files for each language, but the quickly switching languages would require the use of specific (feature-rich) media players, I think. For MKV, there are programs that add the subtitles to the MKV container, and as long as the media player supports DVD-style subtitle selection, changing languages on the fly would be easily achieved by the users. This is on the periphery of my knowledge though, so I'm not versed on which programs to use.

F*ck. OK, I am going to purchase a new player!

Sigh!

**Noledox** · 07-05-12 at 12:29 AM

I meant software players; though hardware players can have similar problems, I have no useful knowledge in the area.

**thunderball** · 07-05-12 at 12:43 AM

Those f*...*s...*##;x* subs haunt me!

07-03-12 at 05:35 PM	#5
deepsepia Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 26	For subtitles, I strongly prefer iSubTitle by Bitfield (for soft codeds subtitles -- for hard coded, use their "submerge" product) Code: Select All http://www.bitfield.se/isubtitle/index.html isubtitle is really the way to go for interchangable titles (though there are lots of ways you can do it, this one is very elegant)

06-13-12 at 10:42 PM	#2
thunderball The Brat Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lummerland Posts: 3,181	Are you kidding me? This is the Graphics and Web Design section, isn´t it? Someone?!? Please!

06-19-12 at 02:04 PM	#3
zac_1 Newcomer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 13	Hey dude, I would definitely reccommend Cinema4D and Adobe After Effects, they inter-link well in terms of workflow, and you can get some INCREDIBLE animation with that! Maybe its a little advanced for what your doing (i have no idea what level of 3D modelling you are at etc.) Not so sure about the 3 exchangeable subtitles thing, never had to do that, have a look at 'dvd studio pro.' I think that comes with the FCP studio package (another brilliant video editing tool) I hope that helped? PM if you want more info or help etc!

06-19-12 at 10:34 PM	#4
thunderball The Brat Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lummerland Posts: 3,181	Thank you! I sent you PM

07-04-12 at 10:35 PM	#6
thunderball The Brat Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lummerland Posts: 3,181	Quote: Originally Posted by deepsepia For subtitles, I strongly prefer iSubTitle by Bitfield (for soft codeds subtitles -- for hard coded, use their "submerge" product) Thank you!!! What is the difference between a soft codeds subtitle an a hard?

07-04-12 at 10:53 PM	#7
Noledox Bad command or file name Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Terra Incognita Posts: 2,709	In general, soft subs are stored in a separate file from the video, allowing you to display no subs or different subs without re-encoding, while hard subs are permanently affixed to the video frames. For MKV containers though, you can include multiple subtitle streams, (much like the fact that you can include multiple audio streams) which blurs the lines of soft and hard subs.

07-04-12 at 10:59 PM	#8
thunderball The Brat Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lummerland Posts: 3,181	Which method do I have to choose if I want to offer a couple of subs that can be swiiched or turned on and off whenever the user wants to? Looool, now I know the nature of those darn separate sub files. How do I re-encode?

07-05-12 at 12:16 AM	#9
Noledox Bad command or file name Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Terra Incognita Posts: 2,709	That gets complicated, depending on what container format you're using. For old-fashioned AVI, you'd need to create individual subtitle files for each language, but the quickly switching languages would require the use of specific (feature-rich) media players, I think. For MKV, there are programs that add the subtitles to the MKV container, and as long as the media player supports DVD-style subtitle selection, changing languages on the fly would be easily achieved by the users. This is on the periphery of my knowledge though, so I'm not versed on which programs to use.

07-05-12 at 12:19 AM	#10
thunderball The Brat Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lummerland Posts: 3,181	Quote: Originally Posted by Noledox That gets complicated, depending on what container format you're using. For old-fashioned AVI, you'd need to create individual subtitle files for each language, but the quickly switching languages would require the use of specific (feature-rich) media players, I think. For MKV, there are programs that add the subtitles to the MKV container, and as long as the media player supports DVD-style subtitle selection, changing languages on the fly would be easily achieved by the users. This is on the periphery of my knowledge though, so I'm not versed on which programs to use. F*ck. OK, I am going to purchase a new player! Sigh!

07-05-12 at 12:29 AM	#11
Noledox Bad command or file name Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Terra Incognita Posts: 2,709	I meant software players; though hardware players can have similar problems, I have no useful knowledge in the area.

07-05-12 at 12:43 AM	#12
thunderball The Brat Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lummerland Posts: 3,181	Those f...s...##;x subs haunt me!