Avengers movie discussion [may contain spoilers]

offdacorner · 05-12-12 at 01:57 PM

I absolutely love the Dark Knight. I think I've watched it about 20 times, at least. Heath Ledger became an instant legend in my book with his portrayal of the Joker. It is still the greatest single role/acting job of any "comic book" film.

I'm not criticizing it at all--just pointing out how The Avengers does not try to be anything other than a comic book brought to the screen. And it worked.

And because it is a film rooted in comic book mythology that also stays true to comic book form, it has set a new standard.

Once again though, just like the actual comic books themselves, the Avengers does not work nearly as well if not for the previous five lead in films.

Moderate risk by Marvel/movie studios.

Huge payoff with a great freaking movie!!!

**Omega_Prime** · 05-12-12 at 02:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by offdacorner

Once again though, just like the actual comic books themselves, the Avengers does not work nearly as well if not for the previous five lead in films.

Moderate risk by Marvel/movie studios.

Huge payoff with a great freaking movie!!!

Well I must say, I am more of a Spiderman fan and when he was the leader in the 90's cartoon saving the Universe, I loved that better :D

offdacorner · 05-12-12 at 02:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Omega_Prime

Well I must say, I am more of a Spiderman fan and when he was the leader in the 90's cartoon saving the Universe, I loved that better :D

I hear ya!

I'm more familiar with the Vision, Scarlet Witch, the Wasp, Captain Marvel, Wonder Man, Thor, Capn America, Iron Man, Submariner, etc.

We're talking when comic book prices ranged from 25 to 75 cents LOL!

Sunflower1970 · 05-13-12 at 05:53 PM

I saw this movie today and loved it. I'm not really a comic book fan, but I do love Joss Whedon's stuff. I've seen the other movies leading up to this one, and liked all of them, with Iron Man 1&2 leading my list. When I saw the previews for this I pretty much rolled my eyes and thought "Transformers, but with people." No way could they actually make a good coherent story with that many super heroes, yet Whedon did it. And that was no easy feat. I'd definitely go see this one multiple times, and I'm not one to usually do this.

Quote: Originally Posted by Omega_Prime

Please do tell as I watched a special preview and I don't think it existed for our screening.

SPOILER ALERT!

Basically it's what super heros, and demi-gods do after a hard day's job fighting aliens who want to take over the planet. :) They go eat at one of the delis that got the brunt of the fighting.

didich · 06-10-12 at 07:48 AM

I personally though it was great, but I wouldn't compare it to the Dark Knight. Ledger changed the rules with his performance and I think it's what makes TDK superior to other comic-book films.

That being said, the Avengers is a fantastic film. While flawed, of course, the balance between positives and negatives is great and, although it doesn't try to redefine the premise of comic-book film, it plays with its tropes masterfully, much better than any other movie sans TDK.

My Top Five:

1. The Dark Knight - 9,8 / 10
2. Iron Man - 9,2
3.The Avengers - 9,2 (I still can't decide if its better than IM)
4. Batman Begins - 8,8
5. Spider-Man 2 - 8,7

05-12-12 at 01:57 PM	#43
offdacorner Apprentice Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 360	I absolutely love the Dark Knight. I think I've watched it about 20 times, at least. Heath Ledger became an instant legend in my book with his portrayal of the Joker. It is still the greatest single role/acting job of any "comic book" film. I'm not criticizing it at all--just pointing out how The Avengers does not try to be anything other than a comic book brought to the screen. And it worked. And because it is a film rooted in comic book mythology that also stays true to comic book form, it has set a new standard. Once again though, just like the actual comic books themselves, the Avengers does not work nearly as well if not for the previous five lead in films. Moderate risk by Marvel/movie studios. Huge payoff with a great freaking movie!!!

05-12-12 at 02:04 PM	#44
Omega_Prime Autobot Supreme Commander Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,556	Quote: Originally Posted by offdacorner Once again though, just like the actual comic books themselves, the Avengers does not work nearly as well if not for the previous five lead in films. Moderate risk by Marvel/movie studios. Huge payoff with a great freaking movie!!! Well I must say, I am more of a Spiderman fan and when he was the leader in the 90's cartoon saving the Universe, I loved that better :D

05-12-12 at 02:18 PM	#45
offdacorner Apprentice Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 360	Quote: Originally Posted by Omega_Prime Well I must say, I am more of a Spiderman fan and when he was the leader in the 90's cartoon saving the Universe, I loved that better :D I hear ya! I'm more familiar with the Vision, Scarlet Witch, the Wasp, Captain Marvel, Wonder Man, Thor, Capn America, Iron Man, Submariner, etc. We're talking when comic book prices ranged from 25 to 75 cents LOL!

05-13-12 at 05:53 PM	#46
Sunflower1970 Newcomer Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 34	I saw this movie today and loved it. I'm not really a comic book fan, but I do love Joss Whedon's stuff. I've seen the other movies leading up to this one, and liked all of them, with Iron Man 1&2 leading my list. When I saw the previews for this I pretty much rolled my eyes and thought "Transformers, but with people." No way could they actually make a good coherent story with that many super heroes, yet Whedon did it. And that was no easy feat. I'd definitely go see this one multiple times, and I'm not one to usually do this. Quote: Originally Posted by Omega_Prime Please do tell as I watched a special preview and I don't think it existed for our screening. SPOILER ALERT! Basically it's what super heros, and demi-gods do after a hard day's job fighting aliens who want to take over the planet. :) They go eat at one of the delis that got the brunt of the fighting.

06-10-12 at 07:48 AM	#47
didich Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2	I personally though it was great, but I wouldn't compare it to the Dark Knight. Ledger changed the rules with his performance and I think it's what makes TDK superior to other comic-book films. That being said, the Avengers is a fantastic film. While flawed, of course, the balance between positives and negatives is great and, although it doesn't try to redefine the premise of comic-book film, it plays with its tropes masterfully, much better than any other movie sans TDK. My Top Five: 1. The Dark Knight - 9,8 / 10 2. Iron Man - 9,2 3.The Avengers - 9,2 (I still can't decide if its better than IM) 4. Batman Begins - 8,8 5. Spider-Man 2 - 8,7