[graware]

thank u, i just used procoder 3 with not so good results. Really, i need convert wmv file to mkv file (with subtitles). Mkvmergue GUI doesn´t support wmv files, that's the reason to convert wmv file to other with almost equal quality (i think h264 maybe is ideal)

[tpAVm]

Quote: Originally Posted by graware

thank u, i just used procoder 3 with not so good results. Really, i need convert wmv file to mkv file (with subtitles). Mkvmergue GUI doesn´t support wmv files, that's the reason to convert wmv file to other with almost equal quality (i think h264 maybe is ideal)

.

Please give it few more try. I know very well that all proposed apps in my previous post work as expected.

[pinbwiz]

This is a little offtopic but involves a tool used by many of us:
I have a noteworthy problem with MKVmerge Gui on various movies lately. The problem appears like random pauses or split second freezes throughout the movie. The pauses are so short (like a quarter of a second freezes); they look as if the PC is not able to keep up to speed processing the entire remux. I was wondering if anyone has ever experienced this or even took notice to this problem. I didn't think it was my PC because it seems powerful enough to do every process related to High Definition.(I have an AMD 64 X2 5200+ --so it seems like a good enough processor for all of this processing).

This is when it occurs:

Quote:

--After trying to remove an audio (like spanish channel) and keeping an English DTS track (eg. The 5th Element), I am sometimes getting some scenes with frame lag or frame freezes in my finished movie. This is something I have just noticed with 2 straight MKVmerge jobs.
--Another instance this happens is: taking a DTS track from a 720p Matrix Movie and remuxing it with a Matrix 1080p Movie that only has dolby digital movie . I am trying to end up with a Matrix 1080p file with DTS sound and no Dolby digital track. So after completing this job I noticed the same frame glitches (slight fraction of a second freezes) in random scenes. So I am left wondering if my PC is not powerful enough to do this process perfectly.

Anyone have any idea or recommended advice for how I can do this process without glitches? I am now a little paranoid of the program MKVmerge gui.
But I use the program so much that there is really no other options to this program.

I am about to conclude that I have to live with the glitches or try to avoid MKVmerge Gui as much as possible.

[tpAVm]

Quote: Originally Posted by pinbwiz

This is a little off-topic but involves a tool used by many of us:
I have a noteworthy problem with MKVmerge Gui on various movies lately. The problem appears like random pauses or split second freezes throughout the movie. The pauses are so short (like a quarter of a second freezes); they look as if the PC is not able to keep up to speed processing the entire remux. I was wondering if anyone has ever experienced this or even took notice to this problem. I didn't think it was my PC because it seems powerful enough to do every process related to High Definition.(I have an AMD 64 X2 5200+ --so it seems like a good enough processor for all of this processing).

This is when it occurs:


Anyone have any idea or recommended advice for how I can do this process without glitches? I am now a little paranoid of the program MKVmerge gui.
But I use the program so much that there is really no other options to this program.

I am about to conclude that I have to live with the glitches or try to avoid MKVmerge Gui as much as possible.

OK. There are NOT such known bugs in this application. I'm pretty sure about it. It seems like your whole AV setup suffers here, based on the description you gave. Things are not that bad if you decide to rebuild your AV setup. If you agree too, let's take the following steps.

REQUIRED PROCESS

1. Uninstall mkvtoolnix and Halli Media Splitter. Open regedit (start - run -and type "regedit" in the tab) and delete any "mkvmergeGUI" and "Haali" remaining entries (use the "find" function of registry editor). If you're not familiar with regedit, then either don't do this and/or take a backup of your registry before messing up with it.

2. Reboot pc.

3. Uninstall any codec packs you may have installed and especially if it's CCCP.

4. Reboot.

5. Install ALL the apps mentioned below in the EXACT following order (install one by one and remember to reboot each and every time):

1. Haali Media Splitter, 2. CoreAvc Pro v1.5 or 1.6, 3. Sonic Cineplayer HD DVD decoder, 4. ffdshow ("rev1732_20071228_clsid_sse_icl10" tryout is proved to be rock solid. Disable all codecs except "raw video". This should be set in "all supported". In the "Output" field, check only "YV12" if your OS is XP SP2 or "NV12" for Vista. Leave grayed the "Set pixel aspect ratio in output media type" & "Allow output format changes during playback". Go to the "Decoder options" tab and make sure you check only "Autodetect", "Drop frame on delay" and "Skip H264" deblocking on delay". Don't touch the originally set values of these last two options) 5. WMP11 (if it's not already installed), 6. AC3Filter v1.46 (remember to configure it as by my tutorial found stickied below this one), 7. Xvid decoder v1.1.3, 8. MeGUI (before continuing, run it once and select yes when ask to update itself. Remember also to chose all available profiles to insert when you'll be asked for), 9. MainConcept Reference (the one of my post, not the portable edition), 10. PowerDVD v.3104 or 3319a, 11. Nero 7 Ultra (latest version), 12. Avisynth v2.57, 13. Download "Graphedit", copy paste the "Dump.ax" into you windows - "system 32" folder and have it registered and finally 14. DirectVodSub. You need it for watching subtitles (and not only for this).
You might be confused already as for the reason you need all the above to be installed even though you probably don't plan to use them. The answer is very simple. All the above mentioned programs are contributing their DirectShow decoders, filters and splitters so you be able to playback or transcode almost any type of widely used AV formats.

6. Install mkvtoolnix (LATEST version).

7. Reboot

8. Download "MKVextractGUI v.1.6.4.1" (installation is not required) and run it to demultiplex your original mkv file.

9. Use MKVmerge to multiplex the AV streams of your preference into a new mkv container.

SOME DOWNLOAD LINKS & HINTS

1. Link for MCR. It's the latest version posted by another forum member. Tested and working 100% too so far. Just run the installer. It's already patched.

2. FFDSHOW. Go below and download ffdshow from the first link provided.

3. Xvid 1.1.3 link

4. CoreAvc. Remember,what most ppl don't seem to know is that from the moment you're using FFDSHOW in you playing graph, no DXVA is possible. That's why you need a very fast h264 decoder, in order to take part of the load off your CPU. The setup I proposed so far is NOT for weak pc configurations. Concerning this specif setting of CoreAvc Pro, just remember to select "Single" in the Deinterlacing tab. Here follows the link to v1.8.0.0 version (latest).

Quote:

CoreAVC Professional Edition 1.8.0.0 (EDGE-KeyGen included)
or
CoreAVC Professional Edition v1.8.0.0

5. DirectVodSub. You can download it from:


6. GraphEdit (dump.ax is included) You can download it from here. Just make sure you'll read carefully the included installation instructions.

Password:

7. Zoom Player Home Max v6 (thanks to MPire)

Quote:

http://tehparadox.com/forum/f51/zoom...cluded-151039/

Finally,please allow me to give you some further hints.
A. Assign AC3 decoding to Sonic's Cineplayer decoder and DTS / WMA to AC3Filter. For configuring this decoder, go to Windows Control Panel and you'll find it listed there.
B. It's always better to use SPDIF.
C. Zoom Player Home Max v.6 is by FAR the best player out there no matter what others have to say about this. If you're familiar with AV stuff and DS config, then this is the absolute player to go with. Zoom's GUI is also a breeze to look at and work with.
D. Assign generic mpeg2 decoding to Cyberlink's (if you have PowerDVD installed) relevant decoder ("CyberLink Video/SP Decoder") and you can use Nvidia's PureVideo decoder ("NVIDIA NVDVD v3+") for low bitrate mpg playback (DVD). You can do some googling and I'm sure you'll find a working download. There are tons out there. The version you should search for is 1.02-233.
E. You can always add ffdshow to all video formats playing graphs, like H264, MPEG2, MPEG4, AVI etc (except VC-1 advanced profile if decoding is on Microsoft's decoder. A/V sync issues will occur 100% in this case to any other container except AVI) and use its filters to enhance picture quality (i.e. resize, postprocessing, sharpen, denoise, picture properties etc.). You'll be amazed by the outcome if you know what you're doing!
F. Don't forget to install AviSynth. It's very important to be installed in case you're using a DirectShow based soft player.



Good luck

[tpAVm]

Quote: Originally Posted by jordan4584

How do you compress the file down to 4-5gb?

You split the original mkv file before converting or you go for a lower bitrate, but this is not a PS3 thread. So, please post any relevant questions in the right section. Thank you.

[tpAVm]

Quote: Originally Posted by jordan4584

......Those files are huge just after ripping, are they not? I don't see the point in trying to upload 25gb 720p 90 minute movie. People who upload have found a way to compress without losing the quality and I just want to know how.

1. Yes they are "huge".
2. Bluray & HD DVD are 1080p. HDTV is 720p.
3.There is no case like this! Since you decide to reencode (and therefore compress) a 25 GB 1080p movie to let's say a 1080p, 8 GB file, then you can be sure that there is indeed a quality loss comparing to the original movie. How great this loss is, depends on a bunch of things. This is a complicated discussion anyway, that has to do with codec used for reencoding, bitrate, AVC level etc. etc. etc.

[tpAVm]

Quote: Originally Posted by jordan4584

I have a BluRay rip of Behind Enemy Lines, I have the BluRay disc as well. Watching both in 720p, there is no real discernable difference. Well, not for such heavy compression. The ripped version is 4.7gb. How did they do that?

Well, first "mistake" is that you're watching a BD 1080p disc in 720p monitor. If for example you had a Full HD (1080p) 50" tv or a video projector of similar resolution, then I'm sure you could tell the difference between those 2 sources (BD & BDrip) very easily. Thing is that very few people can distinguish quality differences in small sized monitors whether we are talking about 1080p or 720p, original source or rip.

[tpAVm]

By re-ENCODING. It's in the first page of this thread!! What were you reading so far?

[drromeo]

wrong forum

[tpAVm]

Please, this is not the right thread to post your HELP questions. Instead, you can try the "Helpdesk" section of this forum.

[wlee]

Quote: Originally Posted by tpAVm

INTRO TO: PLAYBACK - DECRYPT - DEMULTIPLEX - ENCODE - MULTIPLEX HD DVD & BD MOVIES

2. PLAYBACK - CODECS
For playback you can use PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra. Is the easiest and safest way for newcomers to go with. BUT, if you decide to go for a better, alternative player compared to PowerDVD, like "Zoom Player WMV Pro", "VLC", "MPC HC", "KM" etc., you have to install few pieces of software (codecs, filters, source splitters etc.) in order to be able to playback most of the known audio & video formats. Those can be either freeware or shareware. A very decent (and stable) freeware all-in-one solution is "K-Lite Codec Pack" but, as a rule, free means inferior in most of cases. The only exception to this is the "x264" codec. A brilliant open source example. So, if I guess right that you want to playback BD & HD DVD with their usual audio format, best solution to go for is: "CoreAvc Pro" (shareware, h264 decoder), "Haali Media splitter" (required for mkv files and...not just for this), "WMVideo Decoder DMO" (comes with Windows Media Player 11. You need it for vc1, wvc1 decoding. Alternatively, if you install "Mainconcept Reference" (shareware) you may use its own VC1 decoder), "Ac3Filter" (for handling AC3, DTS, MPEG audio etc.), "DirectVobSub" (freeware, aka VSFilter. You need it for viewing external or embeded subtitles), "ffdshow" (freeware, you need it for so many reasons that it would take me all night long to write them down. Basically, in your case, ffdshow will allow you to import for editing almost any kind of directshow based video file, as long as you try and learn new stuff about image processing and video editing) and finally "Sonic CinePlayer HD DVD decoder" (you need this for a bunch of AV reasons, but mostly for real time decoding of all Dolby Digital audio types and HD demuxing). Unfortunately, this is the only decoder available which can be used by third party players to decode EAC3 streams. Worthless to say that, if you manage to setup and customize all of the above correctly (this needs continuous observation and big time effort), the increase in picture quality will be at least 50-60% compared to the one you get when using PowerDVD alone.

So far so good. Well, thing is you can't just rip the disc into hard drive and then upload it, because the size of it would be huge, something between 20 - 50 GB. So, you have to convert at least the main movie to another video format, most likely x264, h264 etc. This is the new, Mpeg4 Advanced Video Codec which you probably see in most of movies listed in the HD section of TP. It has dominated the video world because you can achieve excellent, noise free picture quality with low bitrates and therefore, a comparatively smaller file size than this of mpeg2 or vc1 encoded video.

Thanks for the guide, great work! I couldn't get PowerDVD working on my Vista, will Zoom Player WMV Pro play back raw HD rip on Vista? Do you have detailed steps like the one for remuxing?

By the way, on my XP, PowerDVD now plays raw 1080p HD rip, my quad core q6600 is around 5% usage with the help of ati 2600xt I guess. However the x264 encoded 1080p uses much higher CPU with CoreAVC codec, why is this? the raw rip has much higher bitrate.

[tpAVm]

Quote: Originally Posted by wlee

Thanks for the guide, great work! I couldn't get PowerDVD working on my Vista, will Zoom Player WMV Pro play back raw HD rip on Vista? Do you have detailed steps like the one for remuxing?

By the way, on my XP, PowerDVD now plays raw 1080p HD rip, my quad core q6600 is around 5% usage with the help of ati 2600xt I guess. However the x264 encoded 1080p uses much higher CPU with CoreAVC codec, why is this? the raw rip has much higher bitrate.

1. That's really strange. PDVD 7 Ultra is fully Vista compatible. Apparently, you're doing something wrong. Search in the "Applications" section of this forum and try to spot the 3319a or 3104 version of PDVD. If you install newer versions, PDVD will deny to playback HD content such as HD DVD or Bluray stored in your hard drive. You can blame Hollywood and Sony for this. However, PDVD will still accept to playback ISO images mount on a virtual drive.

2. The version of Zoom Player WMV Pro I posted (5.5b1) in the applications section, is designed for Vista and XP. So, no problem at all. It can easily handle any type of AV file as long as you have it configured for this and the necessary DirectShow decoders, filters and splitters are installed in your system. However, ZP is not the easiest player to go with if you're not familiar with the function of DS components or if you're not willing to elaborate. Though it can build up automatically a playing graph for any loaded AV file, you'll still have to "tell" the app which decoders and other DS components to use for specific file type playback, otherwise, as said before, ZP decides automatically "what's best" for it. What I mean is that if for example, you haven't entered the "options" - "smartplay" - "audio & video decoders" section of ZP and have it configured to use CoreAvc Pro for H264, Sonic CinePlayer HD for AC3, AC3Filter for DTS playback etc. etc. then, if other appropriate decoders are installed (i.e the MainConcept H264/AVC decoder or DScaler or whatever), ZP will chose to use the one that has the higher level DS merit. A step by step tutorial on how to configure ZP is very hard to be compiled by me due to limited free time. A tutorial like the one you ask for, can't be short. Took me "ages" to have ZP working the way I want it to, though I'm in the AV business long time now. Believe it or not, I'm not exaggerating when saying that ZP is more than "just another player". It's science, in case you decide to go deep in it! However, you can visit the ZP forum in their official website and I'm sure you'll find out a lot of useful hints and tips. Most of all, I think you should pay extra attention on how to assign decoders to various AV formats for correct playback, as also suggested by me in this tutorial. This is the most important thing when configuring not just ZP but any other user configurable, DS based player.

3. For CPU consumption etc. you can have a look at the following thread and have my posts in both 2 pages read. Nevertheless, it's nothing you should worry about. Your CPU is powerful.

Quote:

Videocard with H.264 acceleration

Good luck.

[4olic]

WOW!!! Very simple and informative tutorial!
Thanks for the effort

[LS7]

Excellent post, thank you!